Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 12:14     Subject: Re:Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
I worked for a religious preschool which would allow kids to attend with a 'religious exemption' waiver -- and people would abuse that waiver all the time and claim it, even if they didn't practice any religion. I'm sure the majority of the other parents never imagined that some of their child's classmates weren't vaccinated. PLEASE ASK the director if you have the least bit of concern about the school's policies -- you may be surprised. Preschoolers don't keep their germs to themselves, as you well know!!!

Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 10:05     Subject: Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
Anonymous wrote:Many private preschools have decided not to accept a religious exemption, which is within their rights. You'd better check with the school.


This. I know at the very least the DC Archdiocese has stopped accepting religious exemptions. I also question whether a religious exemption is going to fly if you are just delaying rather than refusing all vaccines.

At any rate, I think more states are going to follow California's example and tighten up on vaccine requirements for schools/public life. We'll see philosophical and bullcrap religious exemptions go away.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 10:01     Subject: Re:Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
OP, you should homeschool your child, that should be right in line with your philosophy
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 09:07     Subject: Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
Many private preschools have decided not to accept a religious exemption, which is within their rights. You'd better check with the school.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2015 23:34     Subject: Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/delaying-vaccinations-is-stupid/
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2015 23:34     Subject: Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
sorry delaying is stupid and waste of time.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2015 23:32     Subject: Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just signed the religious waiver and it was no big deal but we were spacing them out over a few months, not years.


So you signed the religious waiver even though you were getting most vaccines, just not on the schedule?


We got all the vaccines and are now up to date - the only one I significantly delayed was the chicken pox and since we had no exposure and I was not going to a Pox party, we did that one a few years later (before 5). I preferred the natural immunity but that's very hard now with the shot available.


Technically most would view us on schedule. But, we were not because we would limit two shots per visit and spread them out every 6-8 weeks (doctors said that spread/picked what shots - we did not walk in with our own schedule). Last shot round we needed 5 or 6 shots - I forget. We have a October birthday, so we have to do the physical in August and go back in October if anything else is needed, like shots. So, if an auditor comes and we only have 2 out of the 6 missing shots, the school can receive an inspection violation as the inspector does not care why or what the plan is, they just care its done. If we sign the waiver, it keeps the school from failing the inspection because of our shot records. We just keep bringing them updated shot records every time we get shots and when we are caught up, that overrides the waiver. The last two schools (current and previous) had no issue with us doing it given our reasons why. We were at one school prior that I was not happy with and they gave me a hard time about it and I basically had to tell them to mind their own business as it was another teacher doing paperwork (thankfully not my child's) and the director had previously ok'ed it. (my kid was 2, so you aren't talking a huge amount missing).

We only significantly delayed one shot - the Chicken Pox but eventually got that one too.

We had really bad fevering and other issues that required a hospital stay so after that, slowing them down was our only option and that worked for us.


Good lord, you sound incredibly annoying. "Fevering"? You mean fever? Which is a normal, common side effect for vaccines?

And, unless you're the queen of England, you might want to refer to your child as "he" or "she" and yourself as "I" and drop the "we" nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2015 23:32     Subject: Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
Keep your Hep A infested child away from mine tx.

Also I don't know anyone would delay chickenpox. I got shingles this year and am very glad I did not infect my kid, who at the time had to take a course of steroids that could have made chickenpox deadly.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2015 23:05     Subject: Re:Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing it's up to the school or the state.

If you're delaying because of actual health reasons, I think you should wait until you're caught up before sending your kid to school, otherwise you are at elevated risk for catching a preventable (and possibly serious) illness if there's an outbreak.

If you are delaying for "philosophical" reasons, you aren't rational so I don't have any advice for you.


Nor do I want my children going to school with yours. And I want to know who you are so I can publicly humiliate and shame you.


First PP here, this response is not me. I am not really into public humiliation and shame. Delayed schedules make no sense based on the decades of research into vaccines, and therefore think anyone who does it without a real medical need (child undergoing chemotherapy, child with impaired immune function, etc), is not rational. But maybe a tiny bit of shame should be felt by parents for the fact that they are putting children at risk for their own irrationality.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2015 22:57     Subject: Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
Anonymous wrote:Doesn't it bother you to lie in general let alone about religion? You are going to say it is against your religion to have vaccines when that is a lie. To lie in the name of religion is disturbing.


LOL. Religions are all lies - just some BS that some guy made up back before people could figure out the sham.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2015 22:53     Subject: Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
Doesn't it bother you to lie in general let alone about religion? You are going to say it is against your religion to have vaccines when that is a lie. To lie in the name of religion is disturbing.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2015 22:47     Subject: Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just signed the religious waiver and it was no big deal but we were spacing them out over a few months, not years.


So you signed the religious waiver even though you were getting most vaccines, just not on the schedule?


We got all the vaccines and are now up to date - the only one I significantly delayed was the chicken pox and since we had no exposure and I was not going to a Pox party, we did that one a few years later (before 5). I preferred the natural immunity but that's very hard now with the shot available.


Technically most would view us on schedule. But, we were not because we would limit two shots per visit and spread them out every 6-8 weeks (doctors said that spread/picked what shots - we did not walk in with our own schedule). Last shot round we needed 5 or 6 shots - I forget. We have a October birthday, so we have to do the physical in August and go back in October if anything else is needed, like shots. So, if an auditor comes and we only have 2 out of the 6 missing shots, the school can receive an inspection violation as the inspector does not care why or what the plan is, they just care its done. If we sign the waiver, it keeps the school from failing the inspection because of our shot records. We just keep bringing them updated shot records every time we get shots and when we are caught up, that overrides the waiver. The last two schools (current and previous) had no issue with us doing it given our reasons why. We were at one school prior that I was not happy with and they gave me a hard time about it and I basically had to tell them to mind their own business as it was another teacher doing paperwork (thankfully not my child's) and the director had previously ok'ed it. (my kid was 2, so you aren't talking a huge amount missing).

We only significantly delayed one shot - the Chicken Pox but eventually got that one too.

We had really bad fevering and other issues that required a hospital stay so after that, slowing them down was our only option and that worked for us.


OP here. Thank you for describing the process. So basically you signed the religious exemption form, and still got the vaccines on an alternative schedule but updated the school with new forms as you got the vaccines on your alternative schedule. This makes sense and it's good that the schools were okay with it. Did you have to provide a letter from the doctor explaining about the fevering issue as to why you were delaying? Or did the school not ask for specifics about why you were delaying?

Anonymous
Post 07/07/2015 22:09     Subject: Re:Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing it's up to the school or the state.

If you're delaying because of actual health reasons, I think you should wait until you're caught up before sending your kid to school, otherwise you are at elevated risk for catching a preventable (and possibly serious) illness if there's an outbreak.

If you are delaying for "philosophical" reasons, you aren't rational so I don't have any advice for you.


Nor do I want my children going to school with yours. And I want to know who you are so I can publicly humiliate and shame you.


There are far worse things parents do to their kids than not getting them vaccines. I would not want my kid to be anywhere near you and question if you should be raising kids given your mentality. No wonder there are so many bullies at school. It starts with parents like you. I don't get into my child's medical history. I just say I am choosing to delay them and that's it. Its none of your business. You wouldn't tell a stranger on the street your business, so why are you entitled to their child's personal information.


umm, because your child is a public health risk
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2015 21:40     Subject: Re:Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing it's up to the school or the state.

If you're delaying because of actual health reasons, I think you should wait until you're caught up before sending your kid to school, otherwise you are at elevated risk for catching a preventable (and possibly serious) illness if there's an outbreak.

If you are delaying for "philosophical" reasons, you aren't rational so I don't have any advice for you.


Nor do I want my children going to school with yours. And I want to know who you are so I can publicly humiliate and shame you.


There are far worse things parents do to their kids than not getting them vaccines. I would not want my kid to be anywhere near you and question if you should be raising kids given your mentality. No wonder there are so many bullies at school. It starts with parents like you. I don't get into my child's medical history. I just say I am choosing to delay them and that's it. Its none of your business. You wouldn't tell a stranger on the street your business, so why are you entitled to their child's personal information.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2015 21:38     Subject: Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just signed the religious waiver and it was no big deal but we were spacing them out over a few months, not years.


So you signed the religious waiver even though you were getting most vaccines, just not on the schedule?


We got all the vaccines and are now up to date - the only one I significantly delayed was the chicken pox and since we had no exposure and I was not going to a Pox party, we did that one a few years later (before 5). I preferred the natural immunity but that's very hard now with the shot available.


Technically most would view us on schedule. But, we were not because we would limit two shots per visit and spread them out every 6-8 weeks (doctors said that spread/picked what shots - we did not walk in with our own schedule). Last shot round we needed 5 or 6 shots - I forget. We have a October birthday, so we have to do the physical in August and go back in October if anything else is needed, like shots. So, if an auditor comes and we only have 2 out of the 6 missing shots, the school can receive an inspection violation as the inspector does not care why or what the plan is, they just care its done. If we sign the waiver, it keeps the school from failing the inspection because of our shot records. We just keep bringing them updated shot records every time we get shots and when we are caught up, that overrides the waiver. The last two schools (current and previous) had no issue with us doing it given our reasons why. We were at one school prior that I was not happy with and they gave me a hard time about it and I basically had to tell them to mind their own business as it was another teacher doing paperwork (thankfully not my child's) and the director had previously ok'ed it. (my kid was 2, so you aren't talking a huge amount missing).

We only significantly delayed one shot - the Chicken Pox but eventually got that one too.

We had really bad fevering and other issues that required a hospital stay so after that, slowing them down was our only option and that worked for us.