Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Must states with bans on same-sex marriage now issue marriage licenses to gay couples? Yes.

If a gay couple was married in a state that has same-sex marriage is their marriage automatically now accepted as legal (with the same rights and benefits) in states without same sex marriage? Yes.

SCOTUS got this wrong. What they did was not Constitutional. Consider this - SCOTUS struck down DoMA because it defined marriage, which his not a Constitutional authority. But they now re-defined marriage which is now a Constitutional authority?

No one redefined marriage. Marriage, to our government, has always been nothing but a legal contract that bestows the rights of kin/family to two unrelated adults. Nothing has changed.

The Supreme Court said that corporations are people, and that joe-bob plinking cans from his porch is a well-regulated militia. In that context, this would be one of the least tortured opinions of the current court.

So? How does that change the legal definition of marriage? Marriage has always been a legal contract.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Must states with bans on same-sex marriage now issue marriage licenses to gay couples? Yes.

If a gay couple was married in a state that has same-sex marriage is their marriage automatically now accepted as legal (with the same rights and benefits) in states without same sex marriage? Yes.

SCOTUS got this wrong. What they did was not Constitutional. Consider this - SCOTUS struck down DoMA because it defined marriage, which his not a Constitutional authority. But they now re-defined marriage which is now a Constitutional authority?

No one redefined marriage. Marriage, to our government, has always been nothing but a legal contract that bestows the rights of kin/family to two unrelated adults. Nothing has changed.

The Supreme Court said that corporations are people, and that joe-bob plinking cans from his porch is a well-regulated militia. In that context, this would be one of the least tortured opinions of the current court.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

SCOTUS got this wrong. What they did was not Constitutional. Consider this - SCOTUS struck down DoMA because it defined marriage, which his not a Constitutional authority. But they now re-defined marriage which is now a Constitutional authority?

If the Supreme Court says that it's constitutional, then it's constitutional unless and until the Supreme Court rules otherwise. That's how the system works.

+1000. It's not up to people like Ted Cruz let alone some random anonymous jackass on the internet to say what is or isn't Constitutional, it's up to the Supreme Court.

If Ted Cruz or anyone else thinks otherwise, they need to pass a Constitutional Amendment.

When the Civil War brought to an end, we also ended slavery, and with that, in 1868 the 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified, which said that all Americans were entitled to equal protections under the law. But some states have been slow to recognize this and so, here we are, 146 years later with the highest court of the land, the Supreme Court, affirming that this is indeed the law of the land, and that two consenting adults should be entitled to the same equal protections of their marriage as anyone else.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Must states with bans on same-sex marriage now issue marriage licenses to gay couples? Yes.

If a gay couple was married in a state that has same-sex marriage is their marriage automatically now accepted as legal (with the same rights and benefits) in states without same sex marriage? Yes.

SCOTUS got this wrong. What they did was not Constitutional. Consider this - SCOTUS struck down DoMA because it defined marriage, which his not a Constitutional authority. But they now re-defined marriage which is now a Constitutional authority?

No one redefined marriage. Marriage, to our government, has always been nothing but a legal contract that bestows the rights of kin/family to two unrelated adults. Nothing has changed.

I think the pp is wondering whether God will allow AIDS to destroy us or if we should expect to be turned into pillars of salt. Maybe epic flood.

Well, we did have water coming into the basement yesterday. That's happened before, though.

+1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Must states with bans on same-sex marriage now issue marriage licenses to gay couples? Yes.

If a gay couple was married in a state that has same-sex marriage is their marriage automatically now accepted as legal (with the same rights and benefits) in states without same sex marriage? Yes.

SCOTUS got this wrong. What they did was not Constitutional. Consider this - SCOTUS struck down DoMA because it defined marriage, which his not a Constitutional authority. But they now re-defined marriage which is now a Constitutional authority?

Somehow all nine justices managed to miss this. I guess you are Americas top legal scholar.

Anonymous wrote:

SCOTUS got this wrong. What they did was not Constitutional. Consider this - SCOTUS struck down DoMA because it defined marriage, which his not a Constitutional authority. But they now re-defined marriage which is now a Constitutional authority?

If the Supreme Court says that it's constitutional, then it's constitutional unless and until the Supreme Court rules otherwise. That's how the system works.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Must states with bans on same-sex marriage now issue marriage licenses to gay couples? Yes.

If a gay couple was married in a state that has same-sex marriage is their marriage automatically now accepted as legal (with the same rights and benefits) in states without same sex marriage? Yes.

SCOTUS got this wrong. What they did was not Constitutional. Consider this - SCOTUS struck down DoMA because it defined marriage, which his not a Constitutional authority. But they now re-defined marriage which is now a Constitutional authority?

Whether they did or not, it is irrelevant. It is law now, and there is nowhere else to go.

So, yes, states have to allow and respect marriages between same-sex couples. If you were married as a same sex couple and you no longer want to be, you need to get a divorce, duh.

There used to be states that said only some people had the right to get married. Some states said two consenting adults who love each other, regardless of gender or sex, could get married. SCOTUS said that married is married, love is love, as long as two people are of legal consenting age to get married and there is no medical reason (like incest/familial issue) then they can marry.

Atheists marry. People with no intention to have children marry. People with no financial stability marry.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Must states with bans on same-sex marriage now issue marriage licenses to gay couples? Yes.

If a gay couple was married in a state that has same-sex marriage is their marriage automatically now accepted as legal (with the same rights and benefits) in states without same sex marriage? Yes.

SCOTUS got this wrong. What they did was not Constitutional. Consider this - SCOTUS struck down DoMA because it defined marriage, which his not a Constitutional authority. But they now re-defined marriage which is now a Constitutional authority?

No. What they did is recognize that the Constitution is silent on the matter of man/woman marriage, and the the Court has long upheld marraige as a fundamental right. Therefore, a ban is unconstitutional.

Anonymous wrote:Must states with bans on same-sex marriage now issue marriage licenses to gay couples? Yes.

If a gay couple was married in a state that has same-sex marriage is their marriage automatically now accepted as legal (with the same rights and benefits) in states without same sex marriage? Yes.

SCOTUS got this wrong. What they did was not Constitutional. Consider this - SCOTUS struck down DoMA because it defined marriage, which his not a Constitutional authority. But they now re-defined marriage which is now a Constitutional authority?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, OP, all states are not forbidden to deny marriage to any same-sex couple. And your brother and his husband, legally married in California, (for example) are now also legally married in Alabama and will be given all the same benefits and rights bestowed on any straight married couple.

Oh, please. Like there are any benefits to living in Alabama.

lol

Anonymous wrote:Yes, OP, all states are not forbidden to deny marriage to any same-sex couple. And your brother and his husband, legally married in California, (for example) are now also legally married in Alabama and will be given all the same benefits and rights bestowed on any straight married couple.

Oh, please. Like there are any benefits to living in Alabama.