Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 17:06     Subject: Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It has been my experience as a software engineer that most projects outsourced to foreign companies have had disastrous results. The contractors don't seem to have the skills to perform the job and they don't have the personal and professional dedication to see the project succeed. IT is the worst because someone who works for another company could not care less that the network is down for days at a time. It's not their bottom line that is at risk.


Then why do companies keep hiring them? I'm asking genuinely. I'm assuming the answer would be "to save money" but if it's not working well, then why do it?

It's a management decision, not a technical decision. They think they can save money. IT is traditionally an expensive department to maintain that does not appear to produce any income. Management thinks they can outsource the whole department as a way of managing the costs of the employees and equipment. Additionally, they do it because other companies are doing it and they think it's a requirement to stay competitive. The guy in the article who was praised for saving the company a lot of money did so out of loyalty and pride in his work. Nobody in the new company will have enough loyalty and pride to perform at the same level. In the end, you and I will not hear about the outcome of Disney's little experiment but five years from now, none of the new employees will be working there.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:57     Subject: Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
Anonymous wrote:It has been my experience as a software engineer that most projects outsourced to foreign companies have had disastrous results. The contractors don't seem to have the skills to perform the job and they don't have the personal and professional dedication to see the project succeed. IT is the worst because someone who works for another company could not care less that the network is down for days at a time. It's not their bottom line that is at risk.


Then why do companies keep hiring them? I'm asking genuinely. I'm assuming the answer would be "to save money" but if it's not working well, then why do it?
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:56     Subject: Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
It has been my experience as a software engineer that most projects outsourced to foreign companies have had disastrous results. The contractors don't seem to have the skills to perform the job and they don't have the personal and professional dedication to see the project succeed. IT is the worst because someone who works for another company could not care less that the network is down for days at a time. It's not their bottom line that is at risk.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:41     Subject: Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
Anonymous wrote:Instead of the popular myth of migrant workers coming to take jobs from US citizens the fact is corporations are recruiting migrants to come take jobs from Americans. Perhaps it's time to stop blaming migrants/ immigrants and start pointing the finger at American corporations.



I thought corporations in America had so little power, though!
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:39     Subject: Re:Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
Anonymous wrote:^^ I don't actually think that, but I wanted to get the point across that you shouldn't just be straight up racist towards an entire group of people.^^


+1
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:35     Subject: Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
Instead of the popular myth of migrant workers coming to take jobs from US citizens the fact is corporations are recruiting migrants to come take jobs from Americans. Perhaps it's time to stop blaming migrants/ immigrants and start pointing the finger at American corporations.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:33     Subject: Re:Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
^^ I don't actually think that, but I wanted to get the point across that you shouldn't just be straight up racist towards an entire group of people.^^
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:32     Subject: Re:Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
It's a White people problem.

They like to hire underpaid "non whites" do their menial jobs. It's across the board (since they can't exactly enslave them anymore). Gardeners, maids, Indians with H1-B visas, etc.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:26     Subject: Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
exactly pp. What a moronic attempt at an argument.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:12     Subject: Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh man. People should boycott. Haven't we learned our lesson from outsourcing jobs to India. Nothing is more annoying than getting an Indian guy when you have computer problems or getting an Indian to book an airline ticket.


Please boycott your computer (if you use windows - microsoft 'outsourced' their CEO job in your view, right?)?

Please boycott all pepsi products (since they 'outsourced' their ceo job)

Please boycott all mastercard cards (since they 'outsourced' their ceo job)

Please boycott google (since they 'outsourced' the mature product chief job)


What a ridiculous argument. A well paid CEO is not the same as a fleet of underpaid drone worker bees.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:08     Subject: Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
Anonymous wrote:It's one thing to say: US citizens who are qualified for a competitive job deserve better chances of employment at a US company than similarly qualified immigrants.

It's a whole 'other thing to say "those obviously qualified immigrants are actually not qualified and I say that because I hate their race and THAT'S why Americans should be employed at said company!"

The fucking morons ITT.

They are not "OBVIOUSLY" qualified. Their resumes say they are qualified, but their relationship to truth is sometimes (not always) distant.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:07     Subject: Re:Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
There are some racist mf'ers on this board, that is for sure.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:06     Subject: Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
Anonymous wrote:Oh man. People should boycott. Haven't we learned our lesson from outsourcing jobs to India. Nothing is more annoying than getting an Indian guy when you have computer problems or getting an Indian to book an airline ticket.



Imagine if your sentence said

"Nothing is more annoying than getting a Black/White/Jewish/Mexican/Italian/gay/transgender/ guy when you have computer problems or getting a Black/White/Mexican/Jewish/Italian to book an airline ticket."


I can understand if you are annoyed at the loopholes that big American corporations use to pad their already overflowing pockets. But no need to be a bigot toward the nationality that is lawfully entering the U.S. and paying taxes by working in legal professions.

Your annoyance needs to be directed to the big American companies and their big American lobbying groups that would rather hire people that are not Americans.

Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:05     Subject: Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, people voted Congress in so we get the government we deserve. Corporations care more about money than US citizens. What do you expect?

Corporations legal responsibility is to their shareholders, to increase profits. Its a bummer when our free-economy benefits other countries.
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Yeah, this. Aaaah, capitalism.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 16:05     Subject: Re:Disney Laid off 250 employees and replacing them with Indian H1-B Visa workers
Anonymous wrote:This is all over, and it's a disgrace. It's also technically illegal, but no one cares since there are no consequences. This is also legalized age discrimination since - as with Disney - many of the displaced are older workers. Meanwhile, their young poorly paid replacements will be worked to death - without overtime, since they will be classified as 'managers'. Personally, I think this is short-sighted on the part of the corporations. Many foreign workers have decent communication skills, but many do not. This can cause real problems. Anyone who tried accessing the first iteration of the Obamacare website saw this firsthand.

You can and should boycott Disney, but this is really the fault of our craven politicians who support the corporate fiction that there aren't enough qualified American workers to do these jobs.


OP won't/can't.