Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
Really? I have had many due to polycystic ovaries and I can assure you they are completely painless. You don't need to penetrate the cervix in any way. Where the f*ck do you get your information? Abortions, on the other hand, are painful.
Really. Where the f*ck do you get YOUR information? I don't even know what 'you don't need to penetrate the cervix' even means. So it's fine with you having a probe shoved up your body as long as they don't 'penetrate the cervix'. Good to know. And BTW, If you have vaginismus, I can assure you that ANY penetration is extremely painful. I have to assume that you have first hand experience with the pain of abortion, or you would not make the assertion that it is painful. Right...RIGHT?
The mandatory violation of a woman who is seeking a legal medical procedure is effectively rape. It is absolutely outrageous that these sorts of procedures - mostly put forth by men - are allowed.
When opinions like these are thrown around as facts it makes me so worried for our society.
What part of that sentence do you take exception to? 'Mandatory violation'? What else would you call a vaginal ultrasound mandated by law? 'Legal medical procedure'? See Roe vs Wade. 'Effectively rape'? Well, what would you call having a probe inserted into a bodily orifice against your will? These are not 'opinions', these are facts. This issue no longer affects me directly (I'm too old) and I don't have daughters - but the fact that ignorant people like you are out there and potentially have an effect on our laws makes me also 'so worried for our society'.
I'd say don't have the medical procedure if it can't be done safely and effectively. Ultrasounds show where the pregnancy is - what if it's in the tube, and in the process, you rupture the tube? Or the tube ruptures a week or so later because the woman thought she wasn't pregnant anymore. How do you know if the contents of the uterus are completely evacuated? Do you know the risk of infection/bleeding/etc. if you leave even a piece of placenta? What if the uterus has an unusual position (i.e. tipped), is bi-cornate or heart-shaped? An ultrasound allows visualization for the doctor and makes the procedure infinitely safer for the women.
By crying 'rape' at this law, you are setting medical science backwards and putting women in danger. I don't consider that benevolent. In fact, I consider that ignorant.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
Really? I have had many due to polycystic ovaries and I can assure you they are completely painless. You don't need to penetrate the cervix in any way. Where the f*ck do you get your information? Abortions, on the other hand, are painful.
Really. Where the f*ck do you get YOUR information? I don't even know what 'you don't need to penetrate the cervix' even means. So it's fine with you having a probe shoved up your body as long as they don't 'penetrate the cervix'. Good to know. And BTW, If you have vaginismus, I can assure you that ANY penetration is extremely painful. I have to assume that you have first hand experience with the pain of abortion, or you would not make the assertion that it is painful. Right...RIGHT?
The mandatory violation of a woman who is seeking a legal medical procedure is effectively rape. It is absolutely outrageous that these sorts of procedures - mostly put forth by men - are allowed.
When opinions like these are thrown around as facts it makes me so worried for our society.
What part of that sentence do you take exception to? 'Mandatory violation'? What else would you call a vaginal ultrasound mandated by law? 'Legal medical procedure'? See Roe vs Wade. 'Effectively rape'? Well, what would you call having a probe inserted into a bodily orifice against your will? These are not 'opinions', these are facts. This issue no longer affects me directly (I'm too old) and I don't have daughters - but the fact that ignorant people like you are out there and potentially have an effect on our laws makes me also 'so worried for our society'.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
Really? I have had many due to polycystic ovaries and I can assure you they are completely painless. You don't need to penetrate the cervix in any way. Where the f*ck do you get your information? Abortions, on the other hand, are painful.
Really. Where the f*ck do you get YOUR information? I don't even know what 'you don't need to penetrate the cervix' even means. So it's fine with you having a probe shoved up your body as long as they don't 'penetrate the cervix'. Good to know. And BTW, If you have vaginismus, I can assure you that ANY penetration is extremely painful. I have to assume that you have first hand experience with the pain of abortion, or you would not make the assertion that it is painful. Right...RIGHT?
The mandatory violation of a woman who is seeking a legal medical procedure is effectively rape. It is absolutely outrageous that these sorts of procedures - mostly put forth by men - are allowed.
When opinions like these are thrown around as facts it makes me so worried for our society.
What part of that sentence do you take exception to? 'Mandatory violation'? What else would you call a vaginal ultrasound mandated by law? 'Legal medical procedure'? See Roe vs Wade. 'Effectively rape'? Well, what would you call having a probe inserted into a bodily orifice against your will? These are not 'opinions', these are facts. This issue no longer affects me directly (I'm too old) and I don't have daughters - but the fact that ignorant people like you are out there and potentially have an effect on our laws makes me also 'so worried for our society'.
I think a woman who is about to undergo a medical procedure involving her uterus should have an ultrasound. I don't love having a speculum once a year but I agree to that because I want the pap smear. I don't scream rape and ask the doctor to go in blind.
On the abortion issue why is it all or nothing? Can't we have some compromise?
Does sex hurt like hell too? Clearly not - you were pregnant....Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
Really? I have had many due to polycystic ovaries and I can assure you they are completely painless. You don't need to penetrate the cervix in any way. Where the f*ck do you get your information? Abortions, on the other hand, are painful.
I had a vaginal ultrasound with my first child and it hurt like hell!! Maybe I am tighter than you but my information is from direct and personal experience.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
Really? I have had many due to polycystic ovaries and I can assure you they are completely painless. You don't need to penetrate the cervix in any way. Where the f*ck do you get your information? Abortions, on the other hand, are painful.
Really. Where the f*ck do you get YOUR information? I don't even know what 'you don't need to penetrate the cervix' even means. So it's fine with you having a probe shoved up your body as long as they don't 'penetrate the cervix'. Good to know. And BTW, If you have vaginismus, I can assure you that ANY penetration is extremely painful. I have to assume that you have first hand experience with the pain of abortion, or you would not make the assertion that it is painful. Right...RIGHT?
The mandatory violation of a woman who is seeking a legal medical procedure is effectively rape. It is absolutely outrageous that these sorts of procedures - mostly put forth by men - are allowed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
Really? I have had many due to polycystic ovaries and I can assure you they are completely painless. You don't need to penetrate the cervix in any way. Where the f*ck do you get your information? Abortions, on the other hand, are painful.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
Really? I have had many due to polycystic ovaries and I can assure you they are completely painless. You don't need to penetrate the cervix in any way. Where the f*ck do you get your information? Abortions, on the other hand, are painful.
Really. Where the f*ck do you get YOUR information? I don't even know what 'you don't need to penetrate the cervix' even means. So it's fine with you having a probe shoved up your body as long as they don't 'penetrate the cervix'. Good to know. And BTW, If you have vaginismus, I can assure you that ANY penetration is extremely painful. I have to assume that you have first hand experience with the pain of abortion, or you would not make the assertion that it is painful. Right...RIGHT?
The mandatory violation of a woman who is seeking a legal medical procedure is effectively rape. It is absolutely outrageous that these sorts of procedures - mostly put forth by men - are allowed.
When opinions like these are thrown around as facts it makes me so worried for our society.
What part of that sentence do you take exception to? 'Mandatory violation'? What else would you call a vaginal ultrasound mandated by law? 'Legal medical procedure'? See Roe vs Wade. 'Effectively rape'? Well, what would you call having a probe inserted into a bodily orifice against your will? These are not 'opinions', these are facts. This issue no longer affects me directly (I'm too old) and I don't have daughters - but the fact that ignorant people like you are out there and potentially have an effect on our laws makes me also 'so worried for our society'.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
Really? I have had many due to polycystic ovaries and I can assure you they are completely painless. You don't need to penetrate the cervix in any way. Where the f*ck do you get your information? Abortions, on the other hand, are painful.
Really. Where the f*ck do you get YOUR information? I don't even know what 'you don't need to penetrate the cervix' even means. So it's fine with you having a probe shoved up your body as long as they don't 'penetrate the cervix'. Good to know. And BTW, If you have vaginismus, I can assure you that ANY penetration is extremely painful. I have to assume that you have first hand experience with the pain of abortion, or you would not make the assertion that it is painful. Right...RIGHT?
The mandatory violation of a woman who is seeking a legal medical procedure is effectively rape. It is absolutely outrageous that these sorts of procedures - mostly put forth by men - are allowed.
When opinions like these are thrown around as facts it makes me so worried for our society.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can't.see.too.much.rage
How much rage did you see when the Philadelphia butcher killed women and babies during abortions, due to unsafe practices?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can't.see.too.much.rage
How much rage did you see when the Philadelphia butcher killed women and babies during abortions, due to unsafe practices?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
Really? I have had many due to polycystic ovaries and I can assure you they are completely painless. You don't need to penetrate the cervix in any way. Where the f*ck do you get your information? Abortions, on the other hand, are painful.
Really. Where the f*ck do you get YOUR information? I don't even know what 'you don't need to penetrate the cervix' even means. So it's fine with you having a probe shoved up your body as long as they don't 'penetrate the cervix'. Good to know. And BTW, If you have vaginismus, I can assure you that ANY penetration is extremely painful. I have to assume that you have first hand experience with the pain of abortion, or you would not make the assertion that it is painful. Right...RIGHT?
The mandatory violation of a woman who is seeking a legal medical procedure is effectively rape. It is absolutely outrageous that these sorts of procedures - mostly put forth by men - are allowed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
Really? I have had many due to polycystic ovaries and I can assure you they are completely painless. You don't need to penetrate the cervix in any way. Where the f*ck do you get your information? Abortions, on the other hand, are painful.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why because in any other major surgery you don't like to see X-rays, ct scans, etc. of your body to make an informed choice?
No one forces you by law to look at your x-rays or scans. And neither x-rays or scans cause pain. Vaginal ultrasounds are very painful.
So you wouldn't mind if it was a regular ultrasound? True, no one forces you to look at an x-ray/ct scan, etc. but a good dr. Explains and shows you what's happening to your body before performing a procedure. Not doing so could even be considered negligent.