Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 17:34     Subject: Re:Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
Anonymous wrote:If you support Geller's right to free speech then you have no case to stop the distribution of anti-semitic flyers.

To me both are outrageous and despicable but one cannot pick and choose what are acceptable insults and falsehoods - and in the same breath support free speech.


Gellar wants to display a cartoon on Metro showing two men talking. One says "You can't draw me" and the other says 'that is why I must draw you"
Can you please tell me why this is despicable? There is no incitement to violence, no stereotyping, nothing even anti-Muslim. By no standard can this be considered hate speech.

Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 16:45     Subject: Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
Can we see the content?
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 13:43     Subject: Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
The police love to waste time and taxpayer money investigating non-crimes. Kids walking home together. A guy open carrying a gun in a state where that is 100% legal. A guy putting his opinions on paper and spreading them around. In between, they shoot dogs and suicidal persons who make them feel 'threatened'. They are a collective disgrace.

But maybe they want to get him for littering?
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 08:06     Subject: Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
What exactly are the police investigating? Were threats made in the leaflets? If not, I'm not sure what the investigation entails.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 07:25     Subject: Re:Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:I agree that this is disturbing. This sounds very similar to fliers that were previously distributed in parts of DC, including Takoma. In that case, the fliers were rightfully condemned as well.

But, I wonder how the Pam Geller supporters that frequent this forum will react. Isn't this simply an expression of freedom of speech?


Just stop. You have no credibility. There is no comparison between conspiracy theories about a Jewish cabal and Geller's opposition to the violence and stifling social norms promoted by a brand of Islam. Although, wanting pro-Israel politicians to be removed from office is a totally valid political position.


You haven't listened to enough of what she said.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 07:11     Subject: Re:Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/29/us/mohammed-cartoon-contest/index.html

Free speech rally, Geller style.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 07:01     Subject: Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
Anonymous wrote:They're were at every house around the corner from me in Shepherd Park. The listserv says that the content is a mishmash of thoughts/supposed quotes/ramblings. Some have said they've encountered the guy before and he seems to be mentally ill.

I'd like to see the actual content, so we can judge for ourselves.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 06:52     Subject: Re:Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
Anonymous wrote:If you support Geller's right to free speech then you have no case to stop the distribution of anti-semitic flyers.

To me both are outrageous and despicable but one cannot pick and choose what are acceptable insults and falsehoods - and in the same breath support free speech.


Conservative here. Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 06:52     Subject: Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
Anonymous wrote:They're were at every house around the corner from me in Shepherd Park. The listserv says that the content is a mishmash of thoughts/supposed quotes/ramblings. Some have said they've encountered the guy before and he seems to be mentally ill.


Ya think?
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 06:45     Subject: Re:Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
If you support Geller's right to free speech then you have no case to stop the distribution of anti-semitic flyers.

To me both are outrageous and despicable but one cannot pick and choose what are acceptable insults and falsehoods - and in the same breath support free speech.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 06:24     Subject: Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
They're were at every house around the corner from me in Shepherd Park. The listserv says that the content is a mishmash of thoughts/supposed quotes/ramblings. Some have said they've encountered the guy before and he seems to be mentally ill.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2015 05:54     Subject: Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
The fliers have also been found in the Martin's Addition area of Chevy Chase.

Can someone please post the text of these fliers?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2015 19:31     Subject: Re:Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
Anonymous wrote:""Remove each and every Jew from state and federal governments and financial organizations" "Jews destroy the US financially": I am not sure what type of actual viewpoint the flyer is promoting (if not the type Nazis and Italian fascists had - people attacked only based on their ethnicity (not just religion, since being atheists or Catholics did not save many people of Jewish ancestry from the gas chambers). you are also wrong that this type of flyers do not promote violence (look at the various white supremacist sites where attacks against Jews are justified as a sort of self defense against alleged actions by "Jews" working to bankrupt the US and its citizen). I don't see it as more justified than Geller at all, just two pieces of junk."

It appears to me that someone is not dividing the issue clearly enough. Pamela Geller is pointing out that some Moslems have used violence against what is humorous. She is quite correct in noticing that. Using an approach that needlessly inflames hatred or puts people who are not directly concerned at risk is a foolish error, but not much more.

Anti-Semitism is quite ugly stuff. It is fundamentally wrong. By itself it is inflammatory. It should certainly be noted and discouraged. I am inclined to name and shame those who do such things. I would also note that while it is a central tenet of some forms of Islam, it is very widespread and by no means limited to Moslems.


Not only did Catholics save Jewish lives, many of them lost their own lives in the process.

My uncle was killed because his mother, my grandmother, was hiding orphaned Jewish children in her house.

Are you really this ignorant of history?

jsteele
Post 05/28/2015 17:57     Subject: Re:Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:I agree that this is disturbing. This sounds very similar to fliers that were previously distributed in parts of DC, including Takoma. In that case, the fliers were rightfully condemned as well.

But, I wonder how the Pam Geller supporters that frequent this forum will react. Isn't this simply an expression of freedom of speech?


Just stop. You have no credibility. There is no comparison between conspiracy theories about a Jewish cabal and Geller's opposition to the violence and stifling social norms promoted by a brand of Islam. Although, wanting pro-Israel politicians to be removed from office is a totally valid political position.


I apologize. I had not realized that you had been appointed the judge of what is or is not valid speech. Had I know that, I would have cleared my remarks with you beforehand to ensure their validity.

Anonymous
Post 05/28/2015 17:49     Subject: Re:Anti-semitic flyers in Suburban Maryland
jsteele wrote:I agree that this is disturbing. This sounds very similar to fliers that were previously distributed in parts of DC, including Takoma. In that case, the fliers were rightfully condemned as well.

But, I wonder how the Pam Geller supporters that frequent this forum will react. Isn't this simply an expression of freedom of speech?


Just stop. You have no credibility. There is no comparison between conspiracy theories about a Jewish cabal and Geller's opposition to the violence and stifling social norms promoted by a brand of Islam. Although, wanting pro-Israel politicians to be removed from office is a totally valid political position.