Anonymous
Post 05/16/2015 12:44     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
I don't really have a problem with anyone eating Racoons. And you might not either, if it was put on a styrofoam tray and called something else, like we do with cows and beef.

This " dog eating festival" also occurred in China, and not downtown DC, so you have little to wax all hyperbolic about as there is no danger of North Americans losing their affinity for dogs as pets and not food.

I'm a dog owner, and truthfully one of those ridiculous ones who posts pictures of her dog on Facebook wearing sunglasses and birthday hats. She is a trusted and loyal friend and I spare nothing at making sure she is happy and comfortable.

But, I also grew up on a farm, and have had wonderful relationships with cows, pigs, goats and chickens. So, I understand that there is nothing "morally superior" about North Americans not eating dogs. I don't clutch my pearls, thinking about Gertie the cow while I eat a hamburger, any more than am I sent into a tizzy or freaking out over an article about food which is an acceptable choice, continents away.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2015 12:44     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG are most of you very ignorant. I feel like a genius when I post here. Does anyone posting on here keep a pig or chicken in your DC apartment that greets and cuddles up to you every time you get home? No? that is because we raise livestock that are pigs and chickens and we have certain regulations put in place for that livestock and we don't steal the pig or chicken from a pet owner who has raised that pet for many years to serve up as cuisine like they are doing in China.



Anyone who has to self proclaim themselves a genius probably isn't. You're basing your outrage on a very personal metric instead of looking at all the available facts and forming an opinion that weighs all sides of the arguement equally.

I agree that it's upsetting that pets were stolen and became food. I am not outraged that it was dogs that became food.

You realize that most people don't keep livestock as pets because it would be illegal to do so? That kind of impairs the opinion that any North Americans would (or could) have with regards to the suitability of a pig or a chicken as a pet. In many places in the world, a chicken would be a pet indeed. My DH was just in Germany, where he saw a lady take her pet goose for a stroll every morning. Truth be told, Ms. Goose is likely to be dinner at some junction, but it doesn't avoid the fact that at the moment, it's an important companion animal in the meantime.

In forming your opinion, you probably haven't considered that pigs, chickens, and cows are "livestock" because we've domesticated them to be, but at the same time when they are not part of the factory flocks and herds we force them intolut of our own ignorance, they are as intelligent as sociable as the dogs and cats who are fortunate enough to share our homes with.

So while you're outraged about dogs, consider that Hindus consider your hamburger about as repulsive and ignorant, and sacrilegious. Guinea pigs are a food source in The mountains of South America. Rabbits are pretty standard fare around the world.

And if it interests you at all, there is a website called "my pet chicken", dedicated to backyard flocks. There's some great forums about keeping PET chickens. People can and do keep potbelly pigs as pets where it is legal to do so.


I think the posts above definitely show that pet people are actually smart and moral, and understand the fact that you judge a dog to be somehow morally superior than a cow is kind of stupid.




BIG difference between pet and food. I dont care what animal it is or what anomal is raised for food but it foes NOT make it right to eat AND torture food that jasnt been raised for livestock. We live in a first world and we think of china just as moral ethical and civilized so a NORMAL person who loves pets would not see torture and mistreatment of animals right or ethical. Only a person requiring serious therapy would think that was right and obviously you are not in that normal category.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2015 12:11     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG are most of you very ignorant. I feel like a genius when I post here. Does anyone posting on here keep a pig or chicken in your DC apartment that greets and cuddles up to you every time you get home? No? that is because we raise livestock that are pigs and chickens and we have certain regulations put in place for that livestock and we don't steal the pig or chicken from a pet owner who has raised that pet for many years to serve up as cuisine like they are doing in China.



Anyone who has to self proclaim themselves a genius probably isn't. You're basing your outrage on a very personal metric instead of looking at all the available facts and forming an opinion that weighs all sides of the arguement equally.

I agree that it's upsetting that pets were stolen and became food. I am not outraged that it was dogs that became food.

You realize that most people don't keep livestock as pets because it would be illegal to do so? That kind of impairs the opinion that any North Americans would (or could) have with regards to the suitability of a pig or a chicken as a pet. In many places in the world, a chicken would be a pet indeed. My DH was just in Germany, where he saw a lady take her pet goose for a stroll every morning. Truth be told, Ms. Goose is likely to be dinner at some junction, but it doesn't avoid the fact that at the moment, it's an important companion animal in the meantime.

In forming your opinion, you probably haven't considered that pigs, chickens, and cows are "livestock" because we've domesticated them to be, but at the same time when they are not part of the factory flocks and herds we force them intolut of our own ignorance, they are as intelligent as sociable as the dogs and cats who are fortunate enough to share our homes with.

So while you're outraged about dogs, consider that Hindus consider your hamburger about as repulsive and ignorant, and sacrilegious. Guinea pigs are a food source in The mountains of South America. Rabbits are pretty standard fare around the world.

And if it interests you at all, there is a website called "my pet chicken", dedicated to backyard flocks. There's some great forums about keeping PET chickens. People can and do keep potbelly pigs as pets where it is legal to do so.


I think the posts above definitely show that pet people are actually smart and moral, and understand the fact that you judge a dog to be somehow morally superior than a cow is kind of stupid.




Not stupid. I'm sorry we in the USA are not allowed to have common values based. A Chinese delicacy is also racoons and here's a link to a news story on a California supermarket: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-raccoon-supermarket-investigation-20150211-story.html Are we now supposed to throw away our affinity for dogs and have dead dogs skinned and hanging in stores located in the USA? Butcher dept at Whole Foods? Just what do you people want?
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2015 09:00     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
Anonymous wrote:I don't support factory farming, either.

And I don't judge the merits of a life form by its intelligence relative to another life form.


But in your case? That's just self preservation, right, PP?
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2015 08:44     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Millions of pigs are kept in horrific conditions in this country and slaughtered in their millions, and they are much more intelligent than dogs, so why don't you worry about that instead?


Pigs are amazing animals and most have horrible short painful lives. So sad!
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2015 08:43     Subject: Re:10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
All animals suffer that are killed to be eaten. I eat meat sometimes but I never feel good about it. I know that some poor animal suffered for it. Sometimes just thinking about the whole food cycle for all species is just depressing. Every species tries to kill another to survive. Life is full of suffering for all species. I try not to eat much meat. I think killing stolen dogs is barbaric.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2015 07:38     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
Can they please come over, and do this to the dogs here? [half kidding]

Seriously, those of you in an uproar are hilarious. Have you ever had a fish or fishtank? Do you eat fish? You can pick and choose which animals you care about and think are cute or superior, but it's not very different than our cultural attitudes towards chickens, cows, pigs, or fish.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2015 07:35     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Millions of pigs are kept in horrific conditions in this country and slaughtered in their millions, and they are much more intelligent than dogs, so why don't you worry about that instead?


+1


You guys clearly don't know Lassie! There's no way a pig is smarter than a collie or German Shepherd!
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2015 07:04     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
Anonymous wrote:OMG are most of you very ignorant. I feel like a genius when I post here. Does anyone posting on here keep a pig or chicken in your DC apartment that greets and cuddles up to you every time you get home? No? that is because we raise livestock that are pigs and chickens and we have certain regulations put in place for that livestock and we don't steal the pig or chicken from a pet owner who has raised that pet for many years to serve up as cuisine like they are doing in China.



Anyone who has to self proclaim themselves a genius probably isn't. You're basing your outrage on a very personal metric instead of looking at all the available facts and forming an opinion that weighs all sides of the arguement equally.

I agree that it's upsetting that pets were stolen and became food. I am not outraged that it was dogs that became food.

You realize that most people don't keep livestock as pets because it would be illegal to do so? That kind of impairs the opinion that any North Americans would (or could) have with regards to the suitability of a pig or a chicken as a pet. In many places in the world, a chicken would be a pet indeed. My DH was just in Germany, where he saw a lady take her pet goose for a stroll every morning. Truth be told, Ms. Goose is likely to be dinner at some junction, but it doesn't avoid the fact that at the moment, it's an important companion animal in the meantime.

In forming your opinion, you probably haven't considered that pigs, chickens, and cows are "livestock" because we've domesticated them to be, but at the same time when they are not part of the factory flocks and herds we force them intolut of our own ignorance, they are as intelligent as sociable as the dogs and cats who are fortunate enough to share our homes with.

So while you're outraged about dogs, consider that Hindus consider your hamburger about as repulsive and ignorant, and sacrilegious. Guinea pigs are a food source in The mountains of South America. Rabbits are pretty standard fare around the world.

And if it interests you at all, there is a website called "my pet chicken", dedicated to backyard flocks. There's some great forums about keeping PET chickens. People can and do keep potbelly pigs as pets where it is legal to do so.


I think the posts above definitely show that pet people are actually smart and moral, and understand the fact that you judge a dog to be somehow morally superior than a cow is kind of stupid.


Anonymous
Post 05/14/2015 23:03     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
Isn't this a pet forum for pet lovers? Why are there so many people anti pets on here? Don't you all have a meeting with your therapists tomorrow?
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2015 23:01     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Millions of pigs are kept in horrific conditions in this country and slaughtered in their millions, and they are much more intelligent than dogs, so why don't you worry about that instead?


Exactly! Moral relativism is fun! Every culture is equal! Yippee!!!!
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2015 22:40     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
And your point is?
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2015 22:32     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
PP here. You all do realize that the dogs are stolen from pet owners in China or are stray dogs right? They are NOT livestock meant for consuming but they are kidnapped, tortured, skinned alive. These animals were MEANT to be pets not raised for food. Got it?
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2015 22:29     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
OMG are most of you very ignorant. I feel like a genius when I post here. Does anyone posting on here keep a pig or chicken in your DC apartment that greets and cuddles up to you every time you get home? No? that is because we raise livestock that are pigs and chickens and we have certain regulations put in place for that livestock and we don't steal the pig or chicken from a pet owner who has raised that pet for many years to serve up as cuisine like they are doing in China.

Anonymous
Post 05/14/2015 17:06     Subject: 10,000 dogs slaughtered at Chinese dog eating festival in June
Pandas are endangered, and still slaughtered and sold in China for "parts".

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/giant-panda-killed-and-sold-for-parts-in-china/ar-BBjMNSR