Anonymous
Post 05/13/2015 23:53     Subject: Please help.
Anonymous wrote:I thought my DC had joint attention until I learned how much joint attention is normal. I'm not saying he has asd but the behavior (which is itself repetitive) makes me wonder. I would get an evaluate by a psychologist who is expert in add and asd, not a dev ped. Have you tried removing him from a room the second he throws? And then doing a re-do. Also praising kazdin style when he doesn't? You can even use food treats to reward, like pieces of a favorite cereal. Also you might consider whether he has any difficulty playing with objects and doesn't really know what to do with them. My DC had a hard time figuring out how to play with toys that other kids had no trouble with. His way of dealing was to take no interest or try for a second and give up and wander off. I remember a kid in a developmental preschool he was in overt briefly who was destructive like your son. I don't know what his diagnosis was but I suspected asd but I think he had trouble interacting.


He pretty much constantly demands look at me, play with me, etc. He has great eye contact, is very friendly, has empathy and pretend play and preschool says he is good with the others. My gut says adhd. I will start looking for an appropriate psychologist - do people know one?
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2015 23:40     Subject: Please help.
I thought my DC had joint attention until I learned how much joint attention is normal. I'm not saying he has asd but the behavior (which is itself repetitive) makes me wonder. I would get an evaluate by a psychologist who is expert in add and asd, not a dev ped. Have you tried removing him from a room the second he throws? And then doing a re-do. Also praising kazdin style when he doesn't? You can even use food treats to reward, like pieces of a favorite cereal. Also you might consider whether he has any difficulty playing with objects and doesn't really know what to do with them. My DC had a hard time figuring out how to play with toys that other kids had no trouble with. His way of dealing was to take no interest or try for a second and give up and wander off. I remember a kid in a developmental preschool he was in overt briefly who was destructive like your son. I don't know what his diagnosis was but I suspected asd but I think he had trouble interacting.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2015 23:08     Subject: Please help.
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like ADHD or asd to me. I recommend you find a second dev led but more importantly take him pronto to a child clinical psychologist who uses behavioral techniques. I would call Kennedy krieger. How you react may be reinforcing some of this so get professional input soon. Kazdin may not be working because maybe you're not reinforcing quickly enough. I suspect he may need a very frequent schedule of reinforcement like every 5-15 seconds.


Not seeing asd - he plays well with others, has no repetitive interests or behaviors, and has a great deal of joint attention and pretend play. But, who knows. We saw Belsito.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2015 21:17     Subject: Please help.
Sounds like ADHD or asd to me. I recommend you find a second dev led but more importantly take him pronto to a child clinical psychologist who uses behavioral techniques. I would call Kennedy krieger. How you react may be reinforcing some of this so get professional input soon. Kazdin may not be working because maybe you're not reinforcing quickly enough. I suspect he may need a very frequent schedule of reinforcement like every 5-15 seconds.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2015 19:30     Subject: Please help.
OP, have you tried inversions when he is having a meltdown? Like, literally, turn the kid upside down? I can't believe the difference it makes with my two year old. I pick him up and turn him upside down at the first sign of an impending explosion of upset and it's amazing how it calms him down almost immediately. I do it during transitions sometimes, too, almost to "reset" him before a potentially stressful change in location or activity.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2015 18:48     Subject: Please help.
PP - I'm another PP. What's the reasoning? What's your background?

I assume these folks are what you're talking about?

http://childrensnational.org/departments/neuropsychology/meet-the-team?sc_lang=en

- Not OP but a previous PP
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2015 17:05     Subject: Please help.
You want a Pediatric Development Neuropsychologist to evaluate him.

Go for someone with this exact title and a PhD.

Get on several PDN's dockets RIGHT AWAY because they are so massively overbooked that it will take MONTHS.

I don't live in DC anymore or I'd give you someone's name. Alas, I'm out of touch with who's who in this field. As around and get the BEST person you can find. Be prepared to wait, but DO NOT deviate from this path or get distracted from it. Call and put it on your calendar, even if the first appointment you can get is in March 2016.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2015 13:28     Subject: Please help.
Yes i can totally relate and sympathize. evaluation, therapy, parent training...like the Kazin Method. This stuff is SO hard!
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2015 10:30     Subject: Please help.
Thanks, all. I think I am just so upset because it has been increasing in severity. He had an almost two hour melt down yesterday - I am talking the screaming flailing kicking kind - and he has now started hitting, which he had never done before. I am just so sad for him.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2015 10:05     Subject: Please help.
OP, my son sounds a lot like yours, except he doesn't have any developmental delays and he's a bit younger - will be 3 in a couple of months.

My DS is also impulsive, wild and aggressive, doesn't listen or obey, constantly throwing, hits out of frustration, etc. Somehow, his daycare/preschool has learned how to handle him and have no issues with him, but boy when he's home, he really gives my husband and I a hard way to go.

Sending positive thoughts your way -- I know how exhausting it is. Also hoping that you find answers.
dancingsunflowers06
Post 05/12/2015 15:56     Subject: Re:Please help.
Hi there - sorry to hear this. Hang in there momma!! I don't have any suggestions for ya, just wanted to offer encouragement. I second the other mom's who suggested asking the doc and OT and getting another opinion if you aren't satisfied. Praying that you find answers soon.

mommato2lilmonkeys
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 12:10     Subject: Please help.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have the nanny get him outside first thing in the morning for hours. Several hours every day, first thing.
Lots of throwing balls at the playground, lots of activity and sensory input.


What do you do on preschool days? The whole rushing thing doesn't help him.


Most preschools are over in a week or two. What do you mean by the "whole rushing thing"?


He goes three days a week for three hours - and I just meant the usual getting out the door bru ha ha.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 11:12     Subject: Please help.
Not purple kids- a couple of kids. iPad user fail
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 11:11     Subject: Please help.
OP it sounds like impulse control issues- my DS had impulse control issues that peaked between 3-5 years. He was eventually diagnosed with ADHD. FWIW, not all impulse control issues at this age result in a diagnosis down the line. We knew a. Purple of kids who were a lot more impulsive and aggressive than my son who grew out of it. You need to keep tabs and watch other developmental milestones. When my son became less impulsive - it became more obvious that he was distracible- the physical impulsiveness morphed into verbal impulsiveness.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 10:43     Subject: Please help.
So he is in preschool? How do they deal with him?