Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 11:02     Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be putting the lid down before they flush. If not, the flushing mechanism sends a small spray of germs around your bathroom.

Same reason your toothbrushes should be put away in the medicine cabinet or elsewhere and not in one of those racks on the counter or wall.


Also, it will prevent alligators from crawling out of the sewer into your bathroom.


No, this is well documented. Myth busters did an episode on it, and WebMD has an article on it.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 10:48     Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
To me, not closing the lid on a toilet is akin to saying "Ughhh, it is such a pain to close a cabinet after I use it," or "Why do I have to close the lid on the washing machine when we're not using it? I'm just going to have to open it again next time I want to use it."

Yes, I suppose it does take an extra fraction of a second, but nobody needs to be seeing inside there when it isn't in use!
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 10:46     Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone puts the lid down. It is the most fair, sanitary, and attractive way to deal with the up down issue.

I find it quite gross when people leave the lid up and it is right next to the counter or something. Nasty.


It is not the most fair. Under that rule, men have to lift and lower the lid and women don't have to do anything. The fairest system is for people to put the lid where they personally prefer it and to leave it there when they leave.


No, under this rule, everyone needs to lift something, every single time, and then lower when done, every time. Hence fairness. Also more sanitary.


80% of women I know who think their husbands should put the seat down do not regularly put the lid down. Insisting that everyone put the lid down is the only vaguely logical defense of making men put the seat down. But it's also a pretty silly way to ensure fairness (it is fair because we have created an extra chore so that everyone can do something).


Luckily both DH and I grew up in lid-down households. I don't really think it's creating an extra chore - I think it is keeping your house in good order. Lid up is just asking for trouble... stuff dropping in there, pets drinking out of it, and it just looks gross to me. There's a lid on it for a reason.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 10:29     Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone puts the lid down. It is the most fair, sanitary, and attractive way to deal with the up down issue.

I find it quite gross when people leave the lid up and it is right next to the counter or something. Nasty.


It is not the most fair. Under that rule, men have to lift and lower the lid and women don't have to do anything. The fairest system is for people to put the lid where they personally prefer it and to leave it there when they leave.


No, under this rule, everyone needs to lift something, every single time, and then lower when done, every time. Hence fairness. Also more sanitary.


80% of women I know who think their husbands should put the seat down do not regularly put the lid down. Insisting that everyone put the lid down is the only vaguely logical defense of making men put the seat down. But it's also a pretty silly way to ensure fairness (it is fair because we have created an extra chore so that everyone can do something).
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 10:24     Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be putting the lid down before they flush. If not, the flushing mechanism sends a small spray of germs around your bathroom.

Same reason your toothbrushes should be put away in the medicine cabinet or elsewhere and not in one of those racks on the counter or wall.


Also, it will prevent alligators from crawling out of the sewer into your bathroom.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 09:55     Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Everyone should be putting the lid down before they flush. If not, the flushing mechanism sends a small spray of germs around your bathroom.

Same reason your toothbrushes should be put away in the medicine cabinet or elsewhere and not in one of those racks on the counter or wall.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 09:37     Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
OP, I used to live in a house where you could see the toilet from the kitchen, and it also drove me absolutely crazy. I found it disgusting and I hated it! My struggle was to get people to close the bathroom door after they were done so I didn't even have to see into the bathroom. Seeing a toilet is not appetizing when preparing food. The weighted toilet lid is the solution for you, though. And even though I don't live in that house anymore, I may check those out for my current house. Thanks, PPs!
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 09:30     Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:My husband either has a permanent inability to remember to out the toilet sest down in our half bath or is intentionally leaving it up - the 1/2 bath opens to our kitchen so when I'm at the kitchen sink, it is especially disgusting to look at the oprn toilet and the underside of the seat. Yes - I'm becoming a broken record about reminding him to put it down because I think he is a bit of an absent minded professor and needs to be reminded. We also have two young sons - and I don't want them to follow this behavior (so far my older potty trained son puts the seat down)...

Anyway - my husband just left the seat of in our master bath, something that he really hasn't done before. I fear that his bad 1/2 bath habit is crossing over to our bathroom - and im about to lose my sh%#. Because reminders / joking etc doesn't seem to work. And honestly - I cannot live with this.

Anyone have a habit like this be the straw that broke the marriages back?


1) He is a GUY so chances are he is not intentionally leaving it up. Oh--just re-read--absent-minded professor--that's how I think of my DH, the Carey Grant character in Bringing Up Baby. Yes, don't read into it or you WILL end up divorced over your mis-read. And we all know the absent professor types are kind and lovable but are chronically situationally unaware.

2) You can buy this toilet seat that slowly moves down (as oppose to loudly dropping) so if he flicks it, it starts descending (gravity)

3) Many men sit when in their own home. Many men feel comfortable sitting when it's their own territory. It's the luxury of having their own territory.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 09:25     Subject: Re:Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OCD OP with a First World problem....


Well - I do have a first world marriage - not one based on an arrangement, coercion, desperation, force by my parents. And I was not a child bride.


You're being pretty childish about this - are you sure you weren't a child bride?


+1
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 09:21     Subject: Re:Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OCD OP with a First World problem....


Well - I do have a first world marriage - not one based on an arrangement, coercion, desperation, force by my parents. And I was not a child bride.


You're being pretty childish about this - are you sure you weren't a child bride?
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 09:04     Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:OP your issue isn't the seat, right? It's that you've joked, cajoled, nagged, and pleaded about an issue you've stated is important to you, and have gotten no where.

Have you talked about that part with him?


Ah, but has she laid out reasons why it's important for her that are not completely arbitrary and/or trivial? Because those are important elements for being persuasive.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 08:38     Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
OP your issue isn't the seat, right? It's that you've joked, cajoled, nagged, and pleaded about an issue you've stated is important to you, and have gotten no where.

Have you talked about that part with him?
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 08:32     Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Second the lid down + seat down option for everyone. Everyone puts in the same amount of effort, no one feels like they're being subservient to the whims of the other, and it looks better.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 08:22     Subject: Re:Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:We have weighted toilet seats that automatically close. Solves your problem and seen in most new construction.


We have the same. IMO, all couples for whom this issue should invest in these seats. Easy fix. Then you can get divorced over something else.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 05:57     Subject: Re:Divorce over toilet sest
We have weighted toilet seats that automatically close. Solves your problem and seen in most new construction.