Anonymous
05/06/2015 20:33
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:Sex on the 3rd date?! Wow, things have changed. Is this true across all age groups these days?
I know, right? In the pre-AIDS 70's and 80's it was on the first date. We've become prudes.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 19:37
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:It depends on the nature of the dates. This is why you really need to set up the second date as a real, honest date. Guy needs to pick the girl up, go out to dinner, etc.
As a guy, one of the problems I have, is that I really hate kisses in the car. Especially for the first kiss. They are awkward. I much prefer standing in front of her where I am able to really do it right. Look into her eyes straight on and have full use of my body to do what I need to do. So in the past, at times I haven't kissed on the second date even though I very much wanted to. It just wasn't right logistically.
Now we are talking! So where would you kiss if she didn't have you pick her up etc
Anonymous
05/06/2015 18:18
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sex on the 3rd date?! Wow, things have changed. Is this true across all age groups these days?
Today's liberated woman does not view sex as something to be ashamed or to that one should hold back. If there is not sufficient chemistry that would make both people want to have sex after three dates, why waste time on the relationship.
In days gone by, a woman who had sex too early in a relation was viewed as easy or a slut. Does not apply today.
Haha maybe in your atheist mind. Tell that to any new immigrant or first generation non western person and yes they will tell you it's very slutty.
Oh, some cultures - especially new immigrants from some countries would view it the way you describe - but for the vast majority of American women I doubt they would interpret having sex on a third or fourth date has a negative connotation.
Vast majority of Americans question the judgment of someone who has sex after the third date. Not sure we've moved away from "slutty."
I don't agree ...... perhaps with the older generation that may be true. If you think about it if there is enough attraction between two people to refrain from sex is akin to associating sex with being immoral. I have had sex with women on a first date and I don't think any the less of them ........ and I don't view a woman who feels she has to wait until much later as being in some way morally superior. In fact, if anything, I'd associate it with something of an inhibition.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 17:25
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sex on the 3rd date?! Wow, things have changed. Is this true across all age groups these days?
Today's liberated woman does not view sex as something to be ashamed or to that one should hold back. If there is not sufficient chemistry that would make both people want to have sex after three dates, why waste time on the relationship.
In days gone by, a woman who had sex too early in a relation was viewed as easy or a slut. Does not apply today.
Haha maybe in your atheist mind. Tell that to any new immigrant or first generation non western person and yes they will tell you it's very slutty.
Oh, some cultures - especially new immigrants from some countries would view it the way you describe - but for the vast majority of American women I doubt they would interpret having sex on a third or fourth date has a negative connotation.
Vast majority of Americans question the judgment of someone who has sex after the third date. Not sure we've moved away from "slutty."
Anonymous
05/06/2015 17:03
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
It depends on the nature of the dates. This is why you really need to set up the second date as a real, honest date. Guy needs to pick the girl up, go out to dinner, etc.
As a guy, one of the problems I have, is that I really hate kisses in the car. Especially for the first kiss. They are awkward. I much prefer standing in front of her where I am able to really do it right. Look into her eyes straight on and have full use of my body to do what I need to do. So in the past, at times I haven't kissed on the second date even though I very much wanted to. It just wasn't right logistically.
As a guy, one of the problems I have, is that I really hate kisses in the car. Especially for the first kiss. They are awkward. I much prefer standing in front of her where I am able to really do it right. Look into her eyes straight on and have full use of my body to do what I need to do. So in the past, at times I haven't kissed on the second date even though I very much wanted to. It just wasn't right logistically.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 16:29
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
I'm glad I'm not young. I would not want to have sex on the 3rd date. I love sex, but the third date is too soon. In fact, I think sex for a 6 month anniversary is about right. But then again, I wouldn't want whoever was courting me to spend any money on me for those first 6 months. Just split the bill 50/50 (well, actually I'd always want to split the bill 50/50).
Anonymous
05/06/2015 15:59
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sex on the 3rd date?! Wow, things have changed. Is this true across all age groups these days?
Today's liberated woman does not view sex as something to be ashamed or to that one should hold back. If there is not sufficient chemistry that would make both people want to have sex after three dates, why waste time on the relationship.
In days gone by, a woman who had sex too early in a relation was viewed as easy or a slut. Does not apply today.
Haha maybe in your atheist mind. Tell that to any new immigrant or first generation non western person and yes they will tell you it's very slutty.
Oh, some cultures - especially new immigrants from some countries would view it the way you describe - but for the vast majority of American women I doubt they would interpret having sex on a third or fourth date has a negative connotation.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 14:12
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sex on the 3rd date?! Wow, things have changed. Is this true across all age groups these days?
Today's liberated woman does not view sex as something to be ashamed or to that one should hold back. If there is not sufficient chemistry that would make both people want to have sex after three dates, why waste time on the relationship.
In days gone by, a woman who had sex too early in a relation was viewed as easy or a slut. Does not apply today.
Haha maybe in your atheist mind. Tell that to any new immigrant or first generation non western person and yes they will tell you it's very slutty.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 13:33
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
I'm glad I'm single again!
Anonymous
05/06/2015 13:20
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sex on the 3rd date?! Wow, things have changed. Is this true across all age groups these days?
Today's liberated woman does not view sex as something to be ashamed or to that one should hold back. If there is not sufficient chemistry that would make both people want to have sex after three dates, why waste time on the relationship.
In days gone by, a woman who had sex too early in a relation was viewed as easy or a slut. Does not apply today.
Where were you when I was single?
Anonymous
05/06/2015 12:14
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sex on the 3rd date?! Wow, things have changed. Is this true across all age groups these days?
Today's liberated woman does not view sex as something to be ashamed or to that one should hold back. If there is not sufficient chemistry that would make both people want to have sex after three dates, why waste time on the relationship.
In days gone by, a woman who had sex too early in a relation was viewed as easy or a slut. Does not apply today.
+1
Anonymous
05/06/2015 12:13
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:FFS, can we please stop about the free dinner crap?? Back in my single days I met wonderful guys where there was no spark and I would give it a few dates to see if chemistry would evolve (and ultimately it did, with my now DH)...but never, ever was I just trying to get a free dinner out of it!! that's just ridiculous. I would rather be home watching TV than at the a Ritz with a guy I'm not connecting with.
It's like some weird urbsn legend that's thrown around here by guys who feel they've been di**ed around, I don't know.
+1. I didn't kiss DH til date 5. I didn't feel there was chemistry even though I found him attractive, but clearly I was wrong.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 11:55
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:Sex on the 3rd date?! Wow, things have changed. Is this true across all age groups these days?
Today's liberated woman does not view sex as something to be ashamed or to that one should hold back. If there is not sufficient chemistry that would make both people want to have sex after three dates, why waste time on the relationship.
In days gone by, a woman who had sex too early in a relation was viewed as easy or a slut. Does not apply today.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 10:40
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Back to the question. M here. If we don't kiss by date 2, I would assume that you were up for a second date to see if you were interested and decided you're not. No harm but better for both to move on.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 10:14
Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FFS, can we please stop about the free dinner crap?? Back in my single days I met wonderful guys where there was no spark and I would give it a few dates to see if chemistry would evolve (and ultimately it did, with my now DH)...but never, ever was I just trying to get a free dinner out of it!! that's just ridiculous. I would rather be home watching TV than at the a Ritz with a guy I'm not connecting with.
It's like some weird urbsn legend that's thrown around here by guys who feel they've been di**ed around, I don't know.
Wow very sensitive. Bet you ate free a lot!
NP. 1955 called and it wants its joke back.
Maybe Ferg from Mad Men is having his secretary post jokes for him.