Anonymous wrote:Since when does not specifically seeking a diverse student body make one a racist? There are so many other factors- size, location, vibe, - this country has gone PC crazy.

Married to a Vermonter from a family of (very non-stonery) UVM grads...all athletes at the school, all very successful in their chosen professions. I only have an outsider's perspective on the school but I've spent plenty of time there. I think you will find that for its racial homogeneity Burlington is a super accepting, otherwise diverse city. And it's a complete paradise in the summer/fall. Winter there is not my bag but then, I don't ski.

Since when does not specifically seeking a diverse student body make one a racist? There are so many other factors- size, location, vibe, - this country has gone PC crazy.

My best friend from High School (fairfax) went to Vermont in the 90s (VT was their home state)- granted she was a health care major, so i don't know the drug scence, just the drinking scence from my visits, which was on par with the VA schools at the time.

She's currently an international aide worker working for a world renound organization -saving lives - she's got the most respect of all my other fairfax friends. We joke that the hippies in VT sucked the captialism out of her.

But, her in-state tution was almost the same as the VA out of state tution at the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why people would pay OOS tuition for UVM.

Merit money.

What kind of stats are needed for merit money? Does UVM offer much?

All of Vermont's diversity is in Burlington which is where UVM is located. It's a great town. And Vermont itself is beautiful. That is appealing to lots of us.

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Anonymous wrote:Does an approximately 97% non-diverse student body appeal to you? I can't imagine attending a school with that make-up.

Because you are a hypocritical racist?

Nothing hypocritical about pointing out the obvious. Vermont is one of the least diverse states in the country. That doesn't appeal to many of us.

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why people would pay OOS tuition for UVM.

Merit money.

UVM grad here - I did my fair share of partying in college, but the drug scene is no worse than anywhere else. Coming from the DC area, I loved that it was so much more relaxed and down-to-earth there. The hippie vibe is strong, but there are plenty of wealthy, east-coast ski bums as well if that's your thing. I tended to hang out with the Vermonters, who I found to be exactly my kind of people. In fact, I married one!

I don't know anybody that graduated from the University of Vermont that did not love it and FWIW, they are all interesting, successful people. The Greek scene is small and less than 10% of the student population participates, so I can't imagine that the party scene exceeds that of the huge Greek football schools or smaller Greek dominated SLAC's in the middle of nowhere. Burlington is a vibrant happy place with a ton to do so I don't get the backlash - we have toured a ton of schools and UVM is still at the top of the list for my non-partying, responsible, bright DC.

Does an approximately 97% non-diverse student body appeal to you? I can't imagine attending a school with that make-up.

That sounds more like the general population of the state of Vermont. The student body is more diverse. (Probably the most diverse population within the state.)

It's a pretty tolerant and gay-friendly place, though. Especially Burlington. It's just not a place where people of color have ever lived in significant numbers. (They do have a significant ethnic minority population -- French Canadians.)

The weed is really good
So is the craft beer

And the skiing. Or it used to be. Climate change is taking its toll.
Good organic produce and local cheese, though.

Anonymous wrote:Does an approximately 97% non-diverse student body appeal to you? I can't imagine attending a school with that make-up.

Because you are a hypocritical racist?

Don't kid yourself that drugs and drinking aren't pervasive at all sorts of schools. At UVM, you just have the ski rack and Subaru to go along with it. FWIW I know probably half a dozen UVM grads, all full-fledged adults, who are smart accomplished people who still possess the unmistakable Burlington chill factor, along with a Phish bumper sticker or two.

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Anonymous wrote:Does an approximately 97% non-diverse student body appeal to you? I can't imagine attending a school with that make-up.

Source? I did a quick check and it looks like an approximately 14% minority student body.

PP here. I pulled it from a college site that I can't find again; but after googling some others including U. of Vermont's site, I think you're right. It does appear though that there are fewer than 2% African American students enrolled there.

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Anonymous wrote:Wealthy stoners

This. UVM's undergraduate population is dominated by out-of-state students who often seem to treat it as a 4-year party. The actual in-state population is surprisingly small. Take a careful look at the students if you visit. You may be disappointed.

The sad state of college is that far too many students spend 4 years partying no matter where they go to college even though tuition is outrageous. Such a waste of brain cells and money.