Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 17:17     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know if it jumped the shark or not, but in the final season of Breaking Bad, I utterly detested Walter White.


He's a scumbag drug dealer. You aren't supposed to like him.


He poisoned a kid in season 4, but the moment he really lost me was (also in season 4) when he sent the neighbor over to his how "to check the oven." Realizing the Walt had become an absolute sociopath did not make me like the show any less, but that was the moment it completely clicked for me.

To the person who thought the finale wasn't any good because the final shootout was implausible, how could you have kept watching after the magnets and the great train heist?
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 17:15     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
WW was unlikeable after he let Jesse's gf die. He just went bad from then on. But an awesome show to the very end. No shark jumping!
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 16:15     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
Anonymous wrote:I don't know if it jumped the shark or not, but in the final season of Breaking Bad, I utterly detested Walter White.


He's a scumbag drug dealer. You aren't supposed to like him.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 16:14     Subject: Re:The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
Here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4ZGKI8vpcg
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 16:13     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BB never jumped the shark. It was way over the top, but an incredible show from start to finish.


Breaking Bad, sadly, jumped the shark in its very final episode, when SPOILER ALERT[u] Walter White took out the whole nazi gang in an utterly implausible manner. At the end, the show stepped back from its internal logic because the writers lost their nerve. A sadly common flaw to many great shows. Even Huckleberry Finn had a crappy ending.


MORE SPOILERS

To a degree, I'm with you on the final episode of Breaking Bad. Not just the automatic gun, but Walter was just going around ABQ doing anything he pleased, after driving cross country in a very unique vehicle. Come on...

You could argue that he really died alone in NH, and the final episode was his fantasy.

But maybe the Gilligan said that's not true. I don't know.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 16:08     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
Anonymous wrote:I think son people don't understand what "jumping the shark" means.
It refers to Happy Days when Fonzie jumped a shark in a tank with his motorcycle. The show was just grasping for straws and barely being watched anymore.


no, he jumped the shark on water skis.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 16:02     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
A lot of posters on this thread just made up their own definition for "jumped the shark".
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 16:00     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think son people don't understand what "jumping the shark" means.
It refers to Happy Days when Fonzie jumped a shark in a tank with his motorcycle. The show was just grasping for straws and barely being watched anymore.


when barry zuckercorn/the fonz jumped the shark on arrested development



Thank you! Love that crazy show ...
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 15:57     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
I don't know if it jumped the shark or not, but in the final season of Breaking Bad, I utterly detested Walter White.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 15:27     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
Anonymous wrote:I consider jumping the shark to be grasping straws as well as just becoming totally ludicrous. No one thinks it's a little weird that a 55 year old and a meth head can go up against the cartel and win? Same with nancy botwin. I don't think in real life all things would work out perfectly and she would survive U turn, let alone the Mexican cartel. The prison angle was just another way that things were able to work out perfectly. Prison seemed like it was her downfall but really it was just a stepping stone to keep her alive.


Look, while I appreciate a show that has done it's homework and knows the setting it is speaking of, at the end of the day it is still entertainment, so I'm also very interested in a dramatically satisfying character arc. BB had that and then some.

"Jumping the shark" is about desperation. It's about the creative team having literally NO idea what is left to do with a show and its characters. BB clearly knew exactly where it wanted to go and finished incredibly strong.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 15:20     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
Anonymous wrote:I think son people don't understand what "jumping the shark" means.
It refers to Happy Days when Fonzie jumped a shark in a tank with his motorcycle. The show was just grasping for straws and barely being watched anymore.


when barry zuckercorn/the fonz jumped the shark on arrested development

Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 14:55     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
Anonymous wrote:BB never jumped the shark. It was way over the top, but an incredible show from start to finish.


Breaking Bad, sadly, jumped the shark in its very final episode, when SPOILER ALERT Walter White took out the whole nazi gang in an utterly implausible manner. At the end, the show stepped back from its internal logic because the writers lost their nerve. A sadly common flaw to many great shows. Even Huckleberry Finn had a crappy ending.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 14:52     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
I consider jumping the shark to be grasping straws as well as just becoming totally ludicrous. No one thinks it's a little weird that a 55 year old and a meth head can go up against the cartel and win? Same with nancy botwin. I don't think in real life all things would work out perfectly and she would survive U turn, let alone the Mexican cartel. The prison angle was just another way that things were able to work out perfectly. Prison seemed like it was her downfall but really it was just a stepping stone to keep her alive.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 13:42     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
Well, I know what jumping the shark means and BB never jumped the shark.

Anonymous
Post 04/10/2015 13:29     Subject: The reason that shows like weeds and breaking bad jump the shark.
I think son people don't understand what "jumping the shark" means.
It refers to Happy Days when Fonzie jumped a shark in a tank with his motorcycle. The show was just grasping for straws and barely being watched anymore.