Anonymous
03/27/2015 20:51
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somedays it is harder than others to get the old outrage machine fired up. This is one of them, I guess.
OP here.
Isn't it interesting how the liberals come out to play with statements that aren't actually part of the conversation?
If you have something to say about the article and about the recent articles re: Asians having 50 points removed from their test scores, please chime in. If you think it's fair, that's OK - be brave enough to state that and why.
I can't trace my family's heritage back very far. Both my grandparents were born in towns that were once Indian land so I declare myself Native American.
Anonymous
03/24/2015 15:53
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Anonymous wrote:You know it is a quick tell whenever a poster references that the "Obama Administration" did something instead of, in this case, "The Department of Education." I automatically know that the poster is likely a Conservative, hates the POTUS, likely watches Fox News or something of its ilk and is going to be critical of whatever the underlying pilciy is. What they do not realize is that a lot of us (and I am a moderate) automatically write off the crediblity of such post. If you want to get more mileage on things like this, OP should have said "Were you aware of the Dept of Ed guidance that went out about the SCOTUS decision?" But the "Obama Admin" tips it off as a political rant.
The Dept of Education falls under the executive branch. Hence, Obama Administration. In fact, Obama Administration is in the title of the L.A. Times article I referenced:
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/28/nation/la-na-nn-obama-administration-backs-use-of-race-in-college-admissions-20130927
Do you support taking 50 points off the SATs and ACTs of Asian students? If so, why?
Anonymous
03/24/2015 15:47
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Anonymous wrote:Was I aware that the administration of a former law professor clarified the significance of a Supreme Court ruling for college admissions policies?
No, but that seems helpful. Unlike, say, handing the county over to corporate interests.
He didn't clarify. That would be fine. They reminded admissions department - encouraged them - to continue to use race as a criteria. Coming from the White House, that's a strong message.
Anonymous
03/24/2015 15:39
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
You know it is a quick tell whenever a poster references that the "Obama Administration" did something instead of, in this case, "The Department of Education." I automatically know that the poster is likely a Conservative, hates the POTUS, likely watches Fox News or something of its ilk and is going to be critical of whatever the underlying pilciy is. What they do not realize is that a lot of us (and I am a moderate) automatically write off the crediblity of such post. If you want to get more mileage on things like this, OP should have said "Were you aware of the Dept of Ed guidance that went out about the SCOTUS decision?" But the "Obama Admin" tips it off as a political rant.
Anonymous
03/24/2015 15:29
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Was I aware that the administration of a former law professor clarified the significance of a Supreme Court ruling for college admissions policies?
No, but that seems helpful. Unlike, say, handing the county over to corporate interests.
No, but that seems helpful. Unlike, say, handing the county over to corporate interests.
Anonymous
03/24/2015 13:37
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Certain groups have been saying that for decades and decades.Anonymous wrote:A president for all the people!
Anonymous
03/24/2015 10:56
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Anonymous wrote:Why does the OP care so much?
Why doesn't it bother you is the real question
Anonymous
03/24/2015 10:37
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Why does the OP care so much?
Anonymous
03/24/2015 09:26
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Because what the Supreme Court was doing was NARROWING the criteria that was previously in place re: Affirmative Action due to the UT at Austin suit. The letter was a reminder to colleges that the ruling essentially said they could indeed still use race as a criteria for admissions decisions. In short, the Administration was pissed at the narrowing of the criteria.
Do you think the Administration wrongly explained the Supreme Court decision? If so, in what way?
I think what they did was wrong because a letter to colleges about the decision can easily be seen as a form of coercive pressure. Reminding them they can still use race as a basis for admissions shows a clear agenda.
An agenda that the Supreme Court has ruled is constitutional.
Again, the Supreme Court narrowed the criteria. A proper letter to colleges would not be to remind colleges they can still engage in racial decision making for applicants, but would be a detailing of what the narrowed criteria means. That would be a letter without an agenda.
Constitutionality is only one part of this issue. No one is debating that.
I have to say I agree with you. There's nothing in the Department's materials that seems to explain how the Fisher decision narrowed the criteria and would put the schools of notice of risk factors that might subject them to future challenge. The thrust is to explain away the decision and to suggest that it did not change the law in any material way. The materials are misleading, and apparently intended to discourage schools from reviewing the decision and reach their own conclusions as to its import.
Anonymous
03/24/2015 08:42
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Anonymous wrote:Wow, that's the least coherent writing I've read in a long time. Congratulations!
You can practically see the spittle-flecks on the screen.
Anonymous
03/24/2015 07:48
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Anonymous wrote:Somedays it is harder than others to get the old outrage machine fired up. This is one of them, I guess.
OP here.
Isn't it interesting how the liberals come out to play with statements that aren't actually part of the conversation?
If you have something to say about the article and about the recent articles re: Asians having 50 points removed from their test scores, please chime in. If you think it's fair, that's OK - be brave enough to state that and why.
Anonymous
03/24/2015 07:46
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Anonymous wrote:OP, do you have kids? If not, why the fcuk do you care?
Yes, I do. But even if I didn't I would care. Because that's not equality. Nor is taking off 50 points from Asian test scores. That's simply racist.
Anonymous
03/24/2015 06:11
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, do you have kids? If not, why the fcuk do you care?
Such an interesting comment. Actually, one of the great things about the ole USA is that we can all have and share our opinions about any topic, whether or not it directly impacts our lives at a given moment.
Just like I'm sharing mine.
Anonymous
03/24/2015 06:09
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
Anonymous wrote:OP, do you have kids? If not, why the fcuk do you care?
Such an interesting comment. Actually, one of the great things about the ole USA is that we can all have and share our opinions about any topic, whether or not it directly impacts our lives at a given moment.
Anonymous
03/24/2015 04:28
Subject: Were you all aware of this Obama Administration that went out to colleges...
OP, do you have kids? If not, why the fcuk do you care?