Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 15:33     Subject: how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
Number facts were not taught before either..
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 15:30     Subject: Re:how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
Yes they could find five ways to regroup 9+2 but they just didn't have the calculation skills and understanding of math as a system to do more complex problems.


So true, they teach 5 different ways to graphically separate numbers but calculation skills are not enforced as math as a system, what it actually does is a dead zone.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 15:02     Subject: how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
Mine too..and long division is apparently 3rd grade math. Pre 2.0 was not good!
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 14:54     Subject: Re:how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
Anonymous wrote:

They waste 3 years with virtually no math instruction to social engineer leveling across the county. They don't teach math fundamentals and do nothing to test for any sense of mastery. Its only producing bright kids who now hate math and kids who wouldn't perform well in math still not performing well at math. The really advanced kids are bored and its sad that they don't have anything school to enjoy but in the end they will be fine. Its the kids in the middle that lose out the most but who cares about them.


I have a pre-2.0 kid and a 2.0 kid. You know who missed out on the math fundamentals? My pre-2.0 kid, who skipped third-grade math and fifth-grade math. I'm really glad that MCPS no longer does this.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 14:48     Subject: how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
Anonymous wrote:What math? My child is learning to count to a 100 in K. Something she learned 2 years ago in preschool. Very very boring!


There are some Kers who don't know how to count to 100 when entering K. There are some kids that didn't go to preschool. Isn't it great that your's and mine did?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 14:46     Subject: Re:how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
Anonymous wrote:
Please note, though, that after being bored out of his mind until 3rd grade, suddenly my child had difficulty doing multi-step word problems. They're a whole other beast, and require a different order of thinking. So you might want to introduce some easy ones to your child to see how she does.


This is why its so bad that don't do anything in K-2. DS didn't have a problem with the multi-step word problems because honestly we supplemented a lot and kept him moving forward with math outside the MCPS system. Several of his friends who are really smart kids struggled in 3rd and 4th because per 2.0 they never developed any math skills. Yes they could find five ways to regroup 9+2 but they just didn't have the calculation skills and understanding of math as a system to do more complex problems.

They waste 3 years with virtually no math instruction to social engineer leveling across the county. They don't teach math fundamentals and do nothing to test for any sense of mastery. Its only producing bright kids who now hate math and kids who wouldn't perform well in math still not performing well at math. The really advanced kids are bored and its sad that they don't have anything school to enjoy but in the end they will be fine. Its the kids in the middle that lose out the most but who cares about them.


And yet, there are *several* kids in compacted math, so, maybe your DS and his so-called smart friends aren't that smart in math after all, or maybe they are good in some math concepts but not in others. For example, I found Algebra I/II to be really easy, but found geometry and trig much harder. Some types of math are harder than others for some people.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 14:36     Subject: how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
They don't teach math fundamentals

Which fundamentals are missing? Like they skip long division?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 14:27     Subject: how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
I thought kindergarten was a little slow, but I've been happy with the math instruction in 1st grade.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 14:26     Subject: Re:how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
Please note, though, that after being bored out of his mind until 3rd grade, suddenly my child had difficulty doing multi-step word problems. They're a whole other beast, and require a different order of thinking. So you might want to introduce some easy ones to your child to see how she does.


This is why its so bad that don't do anything in K-2. DS didn't have a problem with the multi-step word problems because honestly we supplemented a lot and kept him moving forward with math outside the MCPS system. Several of his friends who are really smart kids struggled in 3rd and 4th because per 2.0 they never developed any math skills. Yes they could find five ways to regroup 9+2 but they just didn't have the calculation skills and understanding of math as a system to do more complex problems.

They waste 3 years with virtually no math instruction to social engineer leveling across the county. They don't teach math fundamentals and do nothing to test for any sense of mastery. Its only producing bright kids who now hate math and kids who wouldn't perform well in math still not performing well at math. The really advanced kids are bored and its sad that they don't have anything school to enjoy but in the end they will be fine. Its the kids in the middle that lose out the most but who cares about them.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 14:25     Subject: how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

This is why I don't really need to push my 1st grader in math (who is receiving acceleration/enrichment in class per the report card). I know it will get harder.

One thread I read how K should be all about play and they shouldn't expect 5/6 yr olds to read in K, the next minute I read that K curriculum is too slow and boring. This is crazy. I need to stop reading these school forums.


Yup. The basic uniting principle is: whatever the school does, it's wrong.


Yes, everyone wants the schools to cater to their kids learning style and speed. No one wants standardized tests, but then everyone wants to look at schooldigger/greatschools to find out the rankings based on test scores.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 14:23     Subject: how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
Anonymous wrote:

This is why I don't really need to push my 1st grader in math (who is receiving acceleration/enrichment in class per the report card). I know it will get harder.

One thread I read how K should be all about play and they shouldn't expect 5/6 yr olds to read in K, the next minute I read that K curriculum is too slow and boring. This is crazy. I need to stop reading these school forums.


Yup. The basic uniting principle is: whatever the school does, it's wrong.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 14:21     Subject: how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
Anonymous wrote:What math? My child is learning to count to a 100 in K. Something she learned 2 years ago in preschool. Very very boring!


In the third marking period, your kindergartener is supposed to be learning about

2- and 3-dimensional shapes: attributes, comparing; exploration of shapes—composing and decomposing; directional and positional words—describing shapes in the environment.
Measurable attributes; length and weight - direct comparison, nonstandard units.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 14:19     Subject: how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
Anonymous wrote:
At an excruciatingly mind-numbing pace, to tell the truth.

Can you ask the teacher whether there is more challenging work for your child to do? Although it remains to be seen whether your child will actually want to do it - often children don't want to stand out.

Please note, though, that after being bored out of his mind until 3rd grade, suddenly my child had difficulty doing multi-step word problems. They're a whole other beast, and require a different order of thinking. So you might want to introduce some easy ones to your child to see how she does.


This is why I don't really need to push my 1st grader in math (who is receiving acceleration/enrichment in class per the report card). I know it will get harder.

One thread I read how K should be all about play and they shouldn't expect 5/6 yr olds to read in K, the next minute I read that K curriculum is too slow and boring. This is crazy. I need to stop reading these school forums.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 13:56     Subject: how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?
What math? My child is learning to count to a 100 in K. Something she learned 2 years ago in preschool. Very very boring!
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2015 13:55     Subject: how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?

At an excruciatingly mind-numbing pace, to tell the truth.

Can you ask the teacher whether there is more challenging work for your child to do? Although it remains to be seen whether your child will actually want to do it - often children don't want to stand out.

Please note, though, that after being bored out of his mind until 3rd grade, suddenly my child had difficulty doing multi-step word problems. They're a whole other beast, and require a different order of thinking. So you might want to introduce some easy ones to your child to see how she does.