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Anonymous wrote:Horus-Mithras only relates to Christianity, and not Judaism or Islam, because of the similarities in the ancient mythologies of Horus and Mithras to Jesus.

The gods Horus and Mithras, who were born of virgins, then died and rose again have nothing in common with Moses or Mohammed.

Oh, just stop it and let OP get back to her thread subject.

OP here. I wish the first person complaining about the Horus/Mithras poster had never brought it up. That person, who shows up on other threads complaining about atheists discussing Horus and Mithras, is bothersome. It seems weird to bring up a subject you don't like over and over again -- and then complain when others join the discussion.

Meh. Since this thread has been wrecked anyway, I'll jump in to add that the Horus Mithras poster is a known atheist whackadoodle/troll. Therefore you might as well use "Horus Mithras poster" as any other appellation. I see another PP has just gone to the trouble of debunking that nonsense again - for the 4th or 5th time - because the Horus Mithras poster is incapable of learning, doesn't want to learn, or, most likely, is a troll. Either way, it's fair to say that she's doing no favors for atheism's public image!

Ah, the Horus-Mithras-Christ connection!

This was originally brought up by an atheist poster who insisted that December 25 was the birth date of both Mithras and Horus. That was thoroughly blown out of the water on grounds of historical inaccuracy.

The poster then insisted that Mithras and Horus shared similar features with Christ, and other posters pointed out that it was actually Osiris who was resurrected by Isis picking up all his dismembered pieces. His penis was missing so she made one of gold so she could get impregnated with Horus. I dunno--doesn't sound much like the Christ story to me--and Isis clearly was not a virgin.

Then we have Mithras, an ancient and vague Persian god, whose cult persisted on the western fringes of the Persian empire and was picked up by Roman soldiers after the death of Christ. Many theories about Christian beliefs perhaps informing Mithraism rather than the other way around. Mithras was said to be born from a rock, which I guess earlier PP relates to virgin birth. Am surprised PP didn't equate Athena as well to Christ as she was hatched from Zeus's head.

Sorry for reminiscing about good times on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:Horus-Mithras only relates to Christianity, and not Judaism or Islam, because of the similarities in the ancient mythologies of Horus and Mithras to Jesus.

The gods Horus and Mithras, who were born of virgins, then died and rose again have nothing in common with Moses or Mohammed.

Oh, just stop it and let OP get back to her thread subject.

OP here. I wish the first person complaining about the Horus/Mithras poster had never brought it up. That person, who shows up on other threads complaining about atheists discussing Horus and Mithras, is bothersome. It seems weird to bring up a subject you don't like over and over again -- and then complain when others join the discussion.

Anonymous wrote:Horus-Mithras only relates to Christianity, and not Judaism or Islam, because of the similarities in the ancient mythologies of Horus and Mithras to Jesus.

The gods Horus and Mithras, who were born of virgins, then died and rose again have nothing in common with Moses or Mohammed.

Oh, just stop it and let OP get back to her thread subject.

Horus-Mithras only relates to Christianity, and not Judaism or Islam, because of the similarities in the ancient mythologies of Horus and Mithras to Jesus.

The gods Horus and Mithras, who were born of virgins, then died and rose again have nothing in common with Moses or Mohammed.

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Anonymous wrote:The atheist--not aware of a Christian poster, unless that's the PP who produced the real stories about these gods and that penis made hold that conceived one of them.

The phrase "Horus/Mithras poster" is obviously shorthand for the poster who's always plopping down the shallowest, most uninformed points imaginable. Usually couched in sophomoric jabs at religion. A troll, basically.

the first mention of horus/mithras on this thread was from a Christian bemoaning an atheist who brings up Horus and mithras a lot, while bringing up horus/mithras herself in a conversation that was previously horus/mithras free.

How do you know that was a Christian, and not somebody else who is annoyed by that childish troll? Is there a DCUM ID bar or something, or do you just have telepathy? I'm sure many here think that particular poster is a boring pest, and you have to agree "Horus-Mithras poster" pretty well summarizes a pest who derails lots of discussions on various different religions.

Anyway.

Whatever....

Anonymous wrote:The atheist--not aware of a Christian poster, unless that's the PP who produced the real stories about these gods and that penis made hold that conceived one of them.

The phrase "Horus/Mithras poster" is obviously shorthand for the poster who's always plopping down the shallowest, most uninformed points imaginable. Usually couched in sophomoric jabs at religion. A troll, basically.

the first mention of horus/mithras on this thread was from a Christian bemoaning an atheist who brings up Horus and mithras a lot, while bringing up horus/mithras herself in a conversation that was previously horus/mithras free.

Anonymous wrote:Well, my step-sibs in the midwest believe that Christianity is seriously threatened here in the US and world-wide. Their daily local and world view is through the lens of evangelical beliefs and all that entails. It's a war as far as they are concerned. That's a big reason why these Tea Party types keep winning.

Where do they keep winning? I see more moderate Republicans winning but not so much Tea Party candidates.

The atheist--not aware of a Christian poster, unless that's the PP who produced the real stories about these gods and that penis made hold that conceived one of them.

The phrase "Horus/Mithras poster" is obviously shorthand for the poster who's always plopping down the shallowest, most uninformed points imaginable. Usually couched in sophomoric jabs at religion. A troll, basically.

Well, my step-sibs in the midwest believe that Christianity is seriously threatened here in the US and world-wide. Their daily local and world view is through the lens of evangelical beliefs and all that entails. It's a war as far as they are concerned. That's a big reason why these Tea Party types keep winning.

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Anonymous wrote:That sounds great, and I'm all for greater societal acceptance of gays and atheists alike.

Just know that as long as the face of atheism is represented on places like DCUM by posters like the Catholic Hating Troll and that atheist who is obsessed with sophomoric and historically loony taunts about Mithras and Horus, it will be hard to shed the whack-job/bogeyman (9:58's word) image completely.

perhaps part of the consciousness-raising process will involve Christians not fixating on what they perceive as "loony taunts." A secure faith needn't be upset by hearing about earlier mythological gods who had some of the same characteristics of Jesus -- something that religious scholars and many ministers are well aware of.

By the same token, people secure in their heterosexual relationship and comfortable with their individual sexuality, aren't threatened by homosexuals expressing their sexual orientation just as openly.

Expecting atheists to shut up about Horus and Mithras would be like expecting gays not to mention their partner or not to hold hands in public -- things that heterosexuals do openly and regularly

Seriously? How can you equate gay rights with that Horus and Mithras gibberish? Those posts about Horus and Mithras were loony, you (it was you, right?) kept bringing them up on different threads and different posters kept telling you that your attempt to link them to Christmas was historically innacurate. You seemed like a small child who keeps trying a failed strategy because you don't have anything more intelligent to bring to the table. Your posts weren't great monents for atheists.

Whereas gays holding hands is a serious civil rights issue.

(PS, you always like to twist this into "you must not be secure in your faith, I gotcha, didn't I, didn't I, huh? Huh? Didn't I?" A little less of that and people wouldn't think atheists are as needy as you.)

No, I wasn't me -- I'm an onlooker -- who is amused that it's the person who supposedly despises mention of Horus and Mithras who continues to bring them up.

Whatever - I'm glad you're open-minded about gays. Perhaps someday it will extend to atheists.

Nope, most of us will never respect that Horus/Mithras poster. Don't let her represent you.

which horus and mithras poster - the atheist or the christian?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That sounds great, and I'm all for greater societal acceptance of gays and atheists alike.

Just know that as long as the face of atheism is represented on places like DCUM by posters like the Catholic Hating Troll and that atheist who is obsessed with sophomoric and historically loony taunts about Mithras and Horus, it will be hard to shed the whack-job/bogeyman (9:58's word) image completely.

perhaps part of the consciousness-raising process will involve Christians not fixating on what they perceive as "loony taunts." A secure faith needn't be upset by hearing about earlier mythological gods who had some of the same characteristics of Jesus -- something that religious scholars and many ministers are well aware of.

By the same token, people secure in their heterosexual relationship and comfortable with their individual sexuality, aren't threatened by homosexuals expressing their sexual orientation just as openly.

Expecting atheists to shut up about Horus and Mithras would be like expecting gays not to mention their partner or not to hold hands in public -- things that heterosexuals do openly and regularly

Seriously? How can you equate gay rights with that Horus and Mithras gibberish? Those posts about Horus and Mithras were loony, you (it was you, right?) kept bringing them up on different threads and different posters kept telling you that your attempt to link them to Christmas was historically innacurate. You seemed like a small child who keeps trying a failed strategy because you don't have anything more intelligent to bring to the table. Your posts weren't great monents for atheists.

Whereas gays holding hands is a serious civil rights issue.

(PS, you always like to twist this into "you must not be secure in your faith, I gotcha, didn't I, didn't I, huh? Huh? Didn't I?" A little less of that and people wouldn't think atheists are as needy as you.)

No, I wasn't me -- I'm an onlooker -- who is amused that it's the person who supposedly despises mention of Horus and Mithras who continues to bring them up.

Whatever - I'm glad you're open-minded about gays. Perhaps someday it will extend to atheists.

Nope, most of us will never respect that Horus/Mithras poster. Don't let her represent you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That sounds great, and I'm all for greater societal acceptance of gays and atheists alike.

Just know that as long as the face of atheism is represented on places like DCUM by posters like the Catholic Hating Troll and that atheist who is obsessed with sophomoric and historically loony taunts about Mithras and Horus, it will be hard to shed the whack-job/bogeyman (9:58's word) image completely.

perhaps part of the consciousness-raising process will involve Christians not fixating on what they perceive as "loony taunts." A secure faith needn't be upset by hearing about earlier mythological gods who had some of the same characteristics of Jesus -- something that religious scholars and many ministers are well aware of.

By the same token, people secure in their heterosexual relationship and comfortable with their individual sexuality, aren't threatened by homosexuals expressing their sexual orientation just as openly.

Expecting atheists to shut up about Horus and Mithras would be like expecting gays not to mention their partner or not to hold hands in public -- things that heterosexuals do openly and regularly

Seriously? How can you equate gay rights with that Horus and Mithras gibberish? Those posts about Horus and Mithras were loony, you (it was you, right?) kept bringing them up on different threads and different posters kept telling you that your attempt to link them to Christmas was historically innacurate. You seemed like a small child who keeps trying a failed strategy because you don't have anything more intelligent to bring to the table. Your posts weren't great monents for atheists.

Whereas gays holding hands is a serious civil rights issue.

(PS, you always like to twist this into "you must not be secure in your faith, I gotcha, didn't I, didn't I, huh? Huh? Didn't I?" A little less of that and people wouldn't think atheists are as needy as you.)

No, I wasn't me -- I'm an onlooker -- who is amused that it's the person who supposedly despises mention of Horus and Mithras who continues to bring them up.

Whatever - I'm glad you're open-minded about gays. Perhaps someday it will extend to atheists.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That sounds great, and I'm all for greater societal acceptance of gays and atheists alike.

Just know that as long as the face of atheism is represented on places like DCUM by posters like the Catholic Hating Troll and that atheist who is obsessed with sophomoric and historically loony taunts about Mithras and Horus, it will be hard to shed the whack-job/bogeyman (9:58's word) image completely.

perhaps part of the consciousness-raising process will involve Christians not fixating on what they perceive as "loony taunts." A secure faith needn't be upset by hearing about earlier mythological gods who had some of the same characteristics of Jesus -- something that religious scholars and many ministers are well aware of.

By the same token, people secure in their heterosexual relationship and comfortable with their individual sexuality, aren't threatened by homosexuals expressing their sexual orientation just as openly.

Expecting atheists to shut up about Horus and Mithras would be like expecting gays not to mention their partner or not to hold hands in public -- things that heterosexuals do openly and regularly

Seriously? How can you equate gay rights with that Horus and Mithras gibberish? Those posts about Horus and Mithras were loony, you (it was you, right?) kept bringing them up on different threads and different posters kept telling you that your attempt to link them to Christmas was historically innacurate. You seemed like a small child who keeps trying a failed strategy because you don't have anything more intelligent to bring to the table. Your posts weren't great monents for atheists.

Whereas gays holding hands is a serious civil rights issue.

(PS, you always like to twist this into "you must not be secure in your faith, I gotcha, didn't I, didn't I, huh? Huh? Didn't I?" A little less of that and people wouldn't think atheists are as needy as you.)

The Islamic Terrorists are not helping religion in general. Their extreme acts of violence in the name of their religion just make many people question religion in general.