Anonymous
Post 01/17/2015 11:21     Subject: 132 Composite-- CogAT
Where do I find information as to what the cutoff scores are?
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2015 10:45     Subject: Re:132 Composite-- CogAT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Question about Age based results, does anyone know if the age is based on birthday or is the age for the whole grade. DC's sheet says "compared to 8 yr olds" and DC is in 2nd grade, early Oct birthday. I'm confused how the age is determined.




Was the test taken in Oct?
Mine says "-The Age Scores section compares his performance to students across the nation who are also 7 years and 10 months old." and he turned 8 in the end of December. So it sounds right if the test was taken two months prior to his birthday. If your DC's sheet says "8 years old" it means "8 years and 0 month old".


Thanks for the explanation. Yes, the test was given in Oct (few days after bday)
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2015 09:56     Subject: Re:132 Composite-- CogAT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We received scores -- 141 for quantitative, 134 for nonverbal, and 98 for verbal. Child's NNAT was few points below what is needed to be in the pool as well. I am a bit concerned about such a large gap between quantitative and verbal though...

Do you think I should still parent-refer to keep our options open and get WISC or would you just drop it here?


I think your child is in. the NNAT is a less reliable test.


Correcting my previous response (above) --- I read your post as saying your child had 98% for verbal, not an actual score of 98! Oops--- my reading comprehension is obviously not advanced!

I do not think your child will get in with those scores. Either your child was out to lunch for the verbal test or his/her comprehension is lower than you realize. The AAP program is more "verbal" than you might realize. If that is a true reflection of your child's reading comprehension, it would be a disservice to put him/her in the AAP program. You will be frustrated and your child will be frustrated.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2015 08:32     Subject: Re:132 Composite-- CogAT
Anonymous wrote:We received scores -- 141 for quantitative, 134 for nonverbal, and 98 for verbal. Child's NNAT was few points below what is needed to be in the pool as well. I am a bit concerned about such a large gap between quantitative and verbal though...

Do you think I should still parent-refer to keep our options open and get WISC or would you just drop it here?


If you feel the verbal scores are not indicative of your kid's ability, and your kid is able to handle the higher-level writing, in particular, in AAP, you should seek a WISC and refer. But if your kid is primarily strong in math, know that he or she can still do advanced math even if he is not in AAP. At our LLIV school, several non-level 4 kids take math with the AAP kids.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2015 07:50     Subject: 132 Composite-- CogAT
My ds's scores are V, Q, N, Comp, 120, 123, 119, 123, he is not in pool, but his bday in June, is he younger in the group or not?
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2015 07:00     Subject: 132 Composite-- CogAT
The reason to use 132 composite is to reduce the workload for the process. There are kids that can score high on one subtest, so they are in pool. I know a kid that scored 135 quant, 94 Verb 101 non-verbal, and that year was in pool. Composite was something like 114. He was not admitted.

By comparison, my DD had (Q/NV/V/Comp) of 119/121/123/124. Which is the stronger score? (My DD had a 14 GBRS, and was admitted, but this was in 2010; YMMV).
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2015 02:35     Subject: Re:132 Composite-- CogAT
Anonymous wrote:We received scores -- 141 for quantitative, 134 for nonverbal, and 98 for verbal. Child's NNAT was few points below what is needed to be in the pool as well. I am a bit concerned about such a large gap between quantitative and verbal though...

Do you think I should still parent-refer to keep our options open and get WISC or would you just drop it here?


My child received similar scores. I found this shocking because he usually does very well with verbal and he is a voracious reader. Either he had a bad day or he simply did not understand the questions. One of his friends, who is in the same class, had the same issue. His friend did great in quantitative and nonverbal, but he performed poorly in verbal. I am beginning to question if the school helped prepare the kids for this section at all. I am still referring my son because I feel he would be a good fit for the program.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2015 00:37     Subject: Re:132 Composite-- CogAT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Question about Age based results, does anyone know if the age is based on birthday or is the age for the whole grade. DC's sheet says "compared to 8 yr olds" and DC is in 2nd grade, early Oct birthday. I'm confused how the age is determined.




Was the test taken in Oct?
Mine says "-The Age Scores section compares his performance to students across the nation who are also 7 years and 10 months old." and he turned 8 in the end of December. So it sounds right if the test was taken two months prior to his birthday. If your DC's sheet says "8 years old" it means "8 years and 0 month old".
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2015 00:02     Subject: Re:132 Composite-- CogAT
Anonymous wrote:We received scores -- 141 for quantitative, 134 for nonverbal, and 98 for verbal. Child's NNAT was few points below what is needed to be in the pool as well. I am a bit concerned about such a large gap between quantitative and verbal though...

Do you think I should still parent-refer to keep our options open and get WISC or would you just drop it here?


My DC is similar as well, 131 on NNAT and high score on 2 of the 3 CogAT with verbal being pretty low. It was surprising actually.

Question about Age based results, does anyone know if the age is based on birthday or is the age for the whole grade. DC's sheet says "compared to 8 yr olds" and DC is in 2nd grade, early Oct birthday. I'm confused how the age is determined.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2015 23:46     Subject: 132 Composite-- CogAT
Anonymous wrote:The biggest losers are the younger kids. 129 (the step below 132) is the 97th percentile when adjusted by age but 89th percentile when adjusted by location. It's the 93d percentile when adjusted for neither (grade score).



Not if they're smart enough that they should be in the program. Plenty of kids with August birthdays scoring well over the threshhold.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2015 23:23     Subject: Re:132 Composite-- CogAT
Anonymous wrote:We received scores -- 141 for quantitative, 134 for nonverbal, and 98 for verbal. Child's NNAT was few points below what is needed to be in the pool as well. I am a bit concerned about such a large gap between quantitative and verbal though...

Do you think I should still parent-refer to keep our options open and get WISC or would you just drop it here?


I would get a WISC. Kids are often stronger in one area than another, but that's more than 2 standard deviations difference. Could be that there was something about the verbal test that he/she didn't understand, or maybe he/she lost focus on a section.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2015 22:27     Subject: Re:132 Composite-- CogAT
Anonymous wrote:We received scores -- 141 for quantitative, 134 for nonverbal, and 98 for verbal. Child's NNAT was few points below what is needed to be in the pool as well. I am a bit concerned about such a large gap between quantitative and verbal though...

Do you think I should still parent-refer to keep our options open and get WISC or would you just drop it here?


I think your child is in. the NNAT is a less reliable test.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2015 21:12     Subject: Re:132 Composite-- CogAT
We received scores -- 141 for quantitative, 134 for nonverbal, and 98 for verbal. Child's NNAT was few points below what is needed to be in the pool as well. I am a bit concerned about such a large gap between quantitative and verbal though...

Do you think I should still parent-refer to keep our options open and get WISC or would you just drop it here?
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2015 19:39     Subject: 132 Composite-- CogAT
Anonymous wrote:The biggest losers are the younger kids. 129 (the step below 132) is the 97th percentile when adjusted by age but 89th percentile when adjusted by location. It's the 93d percentile when adjusted for neither (grade score).



So is the in pool benchmark based on the local score, the grade score or the age adjusted score? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I haven't received DC's scores yet so I don't have scores explaining how it works.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2015 19:16     Subject: 132 Composite-- CogAT

Anonymous wrote:It's at least the 3 rd time.

I was just told it's the second time by our AART.