Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 23:16     Subject: why did we skip the paris march?
Anonymous wrote:
Frenchwoman here - thanks, PPs! I'm grateful that so many foreign heads of state came, actually.

Looking at the photos of the massive march in Paris, I wish I'd been there. My elderly mother watched from her window, she's too fragile to get crushed in the crowd.

There was a general invitation extended to everyone to participate in a march, including every French politician - Marine Le Pen made it a big deal to refuse, which is typical of the Front National.


While every French citizen was invited, the PS was in charge of extending invitations to the political parties, and they didn't invite the FN. That was a mistake, and surely MLP will use it in her advantage, as some sort of "victim."



Muslima
Post 01/11/2015 23:15     Subject: why did we skip the paris march?
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:The awkward moment when dictators, leaders and supporters of terrorist nations march for freedom of speech and against terrorism. It is a funny world we live in, I almost wish this was satire~


I am glad you finally recognize the supporters of terrorist Hamas as supporters of terrorism.


As they say, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 23:06     Subject: why did we skip the paris march?
Muslima wrote:The awkward moment when dictators, leaders and supporters of terrorist nations march for freedom of speech and against terrorism. It is a funny world we live in, I almost wish this was satire~


I am glad you finally recognize the supporters of terrorist Hamas as supporters of terrorism.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 22:04     Subject: why did we skip the paris march?

Frenchwoman here - thanks, PPs! I'm grateful that so many foreign heads of state came, actually.

Looking at the photos of the massive march in Paris, I wish I'd been there. My elderly mother watched from her window, she's too fragile to get crushed in the crowd.

There was a general invitation extended to everyone to participate in a march, including every French politician - Marine Le Pen made it a big deal to refuse, which is typical of the Front National.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 21:49     Subject: why did we skip the paris march?
I despise the Front National, but I think it was a mistake that Marine Le Pen was the only French politician not invited to a "unity rally."
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 21:47     Subject: why did we skip the paris march?
The French newspapers are not making a big deal about the absence of Obama or a nigh-level US officer.
jsteele
Post 01/11/2015 21:43     Subject: Re:why did we skip the paris march?
It turns out that the French didn't want Netanyahu to come:

http://www.haaretz.com/.premium-1.636557?v=D9B18F0B6D785F827EDA7137FD551BC6

"French President Francois Hollande conveyed a message to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over the weekend asking him not to come to Paris to take part in the march against terror on Sunday, according to an Israeli source who was involved in the contacts between the Elysees Palace and the Prime Minister’s Office in Jerusalem. The fact that this message had been conveyed was first reported by Channel 2."

Muslima
Post 01/11/2015 21:41     Subject: why did we skip the paris march?
The awkward moment when dictators, leaders and supporters of terrorist nations march for freedom of speech and against terrorism. It is a funny world we live in, I almost wish this was satire~
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 21:22     Subject: Re:why did we skip the paris march?
Anonymous wrote:Dear Frenchwoman, my sympathies to your country.
+1
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 20:16     Subject: Re:why did we skip the paris march?
Dear Frenchwoman, my sympathies to your country.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 19:53     Subject: why did we skip the paris march?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good heavens, you people will complain about everything. I'm sad about what happened, but it's time the French woke up and understood this is a problem in their own country. It is tragic, but it was 17 people, not 9/11. (France being the hotbed of 9/11 deniers, btw).

We could have sent Biden, because it's not like he does anything, but Obama on such short notice? Overkill.


As a Frenchwoman, I take offense at your statement. No one in France has denied 9/11, whatever that means. The French do not need waking up, because they and everybody else except for you, understand that "islamist" terrorism is a global menace. BTW France has dealt with very serious terrorist attacks before (Metro bombings), but from the Algeria terrorists, linked to its colonial past in that country. It is as equipped as any nation to fight terrorism.

I've not heard any French people complaining of the US President's absence. We helped you fight against England for your independence, but chose not to go to Iraq with you (because Bush lied about WMDs, remember?). Who cares about old history. Our interests are aligned when fighting terrorist threats and that is what matters. The presence or absence of Obama today at the rally will not change that.






Don't forget Vietnam.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 19:47     Subject: why did we skip the paris march?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Greta:

Here is the video! A statement to the world -- President Obama should have been there. His absence is glaring.

"You-know-who" was not one of the world leaders marching against terror in Paris. He also did not send VP Biden and now reports are that lame duck (he resigned) Attorney General Eric Holder left before the March began. On top of it all -- it was France's then President Chirac who was the first world leader to show up at the White House after 9/11 (assuming my memory is correct.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ernPdr6C3jA&feature=youtu.be


The French also showed up to help us in the revolutionary war. This is incredible to me. Pres.Obama speaks at the Berlin wall but can't go to this? Is he in Hawaii or something?


Uh, weren't you the guys who chucked France under the bus when they wouldn't support invading Iraq??

Time for you to eat some crow, er "freedom pheasant".
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 19:13     Subject: why did we skip the paris march?
Anonymous wrote:Good heavens, you people will complain about everything. I'm sad about what happened, but it's time the French woke up and understood this is a problem in their own country. It is tragic, but it was 17 people, not 9/11. (France being the hotbed of 9/11 deniers, btw).

We could have sent Biden, because it's not like he does anything, but Obama on such short notice? Overkill.


As a Frenchwoman, I take offense at your statement. No one in France has denied 9/11, whatever that means. The French do not need waking up, because they and everybody else except for you, understand that "islamist" terrorism is a global menace. BTW France has dealt with very serious terrorist attacks before (Metro bombings), but from the Algeria terrorists, linked to its colonial past in that country. It is as equipped as any nation to fight terrorism.

I've not heard any French people complaining of the US President's absence. We helped you fight against England for your independence, but chose not to go to Iraq with you (because Bush lied about WMDs, remember?). Who cares about old history. Our interests are aligned when fighting terrorist threats and that is what matters. The presence or absence of Obama today at the rally will not change that.




Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 19:10     Subject: why did we skip the paris march?
2x Obama voter here and former State Dept advisor: I think it's problematic not to have a senior USG official there. Contrary to the belief of many partisans, the USG isn't totally clueless about this sort of stuff, so I assume there's a good reason for it. For example Kerry in India (and doing Iran work en route) is pretty high priority; the Deputy Secretary of State recently left and the replacement hasn't been confirmed. But someone in the senior ranks should have been made available for this, unless there was an explicit preference by Hollande or security reasons for not doing so.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2015 18:59     Subject: Re:why did we skip the paris march?
Anonymous wrote:Because it is solidarity for European nations? The US doesn't want to be a bigger target than we are? We don't want to be involved in France's foreign affairs and then need to take over their fight for them?


this, thank you.