Anonymous
01/09/2015 12:03
Subject: Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
Anonymous wrote:I think 1,000 lashes is a death sentence. We really need to stop cozying up to the Saudis. They have a product that they really want to sell to us. We don't need to be beholden to them.
They don't do them all at once, they do them in increments on different occassions.
Anonymous
01/09/2015 11:56
Subject: Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
Anonymous wrote:How can anyone consider the kingdom of Saudi Arabia to be a civilized, modern nation?
Who does?
Anonymous
01/09/2015 11:17
Subject: Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
How can anyone consider the kingdom of Saudi Arabia to be a civilized, modern nation?
Anonymous
01/09/2015 10:33
Subject: Re:Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
Anonymous
01/09/2015 07:38
Subject: Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:
". . . on a liberal online forum he had created. . .
The sounds vaguely reminiscent of some one I know, though I can't place the name.
In all seriousness though, I find it horrific that the world still faces thaws sorts of horrific human rights abuses in 2015 and that freedom of the press and freedom of expression are under attack.
Stay safe Jeff!
I only get verbally flogged.
Jeff, you verbally flog people, so they respond in kind. It's not really surprising.
Well that's true. The flogger in chief can give as good as he gets if he disagrees with you.
jsteele
01/09/2015 07:22
Subject: Re:Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
The blogger has suffered his first 50 lashes:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30744693
Apparently the US Department of State made a statement asking for the punishment to be reviewed. I would think that given how frequently our commitment to freedom of expression has been reiterated lately, something a bit stronger than that could have been done.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30744693
Apparently the US Department of State made a statement asking for the punishment to be reviewed. I would think that given how frequently our commitment to freedom of expression has been reiterated lately, something a bit stronger than that could have been done.
Anonymous
01/09/2015 07:00
Subject: Re:Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
Anonymous wrote:While I am 100 percent against the decision of the Saudi courts, flogging in Saudi Arabia is not nearly as bad as you might think for a couple of reasons.
1) You are flogged with all your clothes on. You could put any number of layers of foam under your shirt.
2) The flogger must hold a Quran under the arm he is flogging with. This means the flogging is done using the arm from just the elbow down. it is almost impossible to get leverage to deliver a whipping of any strength.
Flogging in Saudi Arabia really amounts to an exercise in public humiliation.
An American embassy counsel in Saudi Arabia I once knew told me that frequently those who are convicted of crimes in Saudi Arabia are given a choice between prison time or flogging, and he always recommended flogging to his American charges. Saudi prisons are pretty bad.
I'm really relieved to read this description. Thank you for posting. Had read that he'll be whipped something like 50 times each week for 50 weeks, and was worried he'd been essentially sentenced to be tortured to death. Still horrible what they're doing to him. He's going to be in prison for quite a while.
Anonymous
01/09/2015 06:34
Subject: Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:
". . . on a liberal online forum he had created. . .
The sounds vaguely reminiscent of some one I know, though I can't place the name.
In all seriousness though, I find it horrific that the world still faces thaws sorts of horrific human rights abuses in 2015 and that freedom of the press and freedom of expression are under attack.
Stay safe Jeff!
I only get verbally flogged.
Jeff, you verbally flog people, so they respond in kind. It's not really surprising.
Muslima
01/08/2015 22:09
Subject: Re:Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
Anonymous wrote:This is why I wouldn't move to Saudi Arabia even though I love Mecca & Medina, I would probably have been flogged by now . Fun fact: There is a book out there titled "In Defense of Flogging" written by a former Baltimore City police officer and professor of law. Imagine if a Muslim had written it?!
The problem is not Radical Islam, but Radical Igorance~
"Amongst the friends of Allah, the Qur'an is considered as a love letter from Allah, which inevitably is read continuously to remind them of their Beloved. "Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri
well, maybe branch out and read a few different philosophy books.
I have read quite a few actually!
Anonymous
01/08/2015 22:07
Subject: Re:Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
This is why I wouldn't move to Saudi Arabia even though I love Mecca & Medina, I would probably have been flogged by now . Fun fact: There is a book out there titled "In Defense of Flogging" written by a former Baltimore City police officer and professor of law. Imagine if a Muslim had written it?!
The problem is not Radical Islam, but Radical Igorance~
"Amongst the friends of Allah, the Qur'an is considered as a love letter from Allah, which inevitably is read continuously to remind them of their Beloved. "Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri
well, maybe branch out and read a few different philosophy books.
The problem is not Radical Islam, but Radical Igorance~
"Amongst the friends of Allah, the Qur'an is considered as a love letter from Allah, which inevitably is read continuously to remind them of their Beloved. "Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri
well, maybe branch out and read a few different philosophy books.
Muslima
01/08/2015 21:47
Subject: Re:Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
This is why I wouldn't move to Saudi Arabia even though I love Mecca & Medina, I would probably have been flogged by now 
. Fun fact: There is a book out there titled "In Defense of Flogging" written by a former Baltimore City police officer and professor of law. Imagine if a Muslim had written it?!
. Fun fact: There is a book out there titled "In Defense of Flogging" written by a former Baltimore City police officer and professor of law. Imagine if a Muslim had written it?!
Anonymous
01/08/2015 21:35
Subject: Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:
". . . on a liberal online forum he had created. . .
The sounds vaguely reminiscent of some one I know, though I can't place the name.
In all seriousness though, I find it horrific that the world still faces thaws sorts of horrific human rights abuses in 2015 and that freedom of the press and freedom of expression are under attack.
Stay safe Jeff!
I only get verbally flogged.
so far, be sure to "show restraint" and "use common sense"
Anonymous
01/08/2015 21:09
Subject: Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
You're welcome. 
jsteele
01/08/2015 21:08
Subject: Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:
". . . on a liberal online forum he had created. . .
The sounds vaguely reminiscent of some one I know, though I can't place the name.
In all seriousness though, I find it horrific that the world still faces thaws sorts of horrific human rights abuses in 2015 and that freedom of the press and freedom of expression are under attack.
Stay safe Jeff!
I only get verbally flogged.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 21:07
Subject: Saudi Blogger to be Publicly Flogged for Insulting Islam
jsteele wrote:
". . . on a liberal online forum he had created. . .
The sounds vaguely reminiscent of some one I know, though I can't place the name.
In all seriousness though, I find it horrific that the world still faces thaws sorts of horrific human rights abuses in 2015 and that freedom of the press and freedom of expression are under attack.
Stay safe Jeff!