Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 13:23     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:MCPS spends about $12,600 per student per year. Therefore, nobody should be allowed to enroll their child in school for the year until they can prove that they paid at least $12,600 in property taxes last year.

If you have two children in school, you have to have paid at least $25,200. Three children, $37,800. And so on.

Also, if you are an MCPS teacher, you can't send your child to MCPS at all, because it's too complicated to figure out how much you should have to pay in property taxes per child to enroll, given that the money you pay your property taxes with comes from property taxes.

(Note: this is a modest proposal, not a sincere one.)


That's not how public services and taxes work.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 13:21     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If a huge amount of money goes to poor immigrants (legal and especially illegal) there has to be cuts and a lot of them. You want a better school system, less overcrowding, more money going towards your kids and less towards ESL? You need to fight this influx of immigrants entering Montgomery County. Our local government seems to welcome them with open arms with YOUR taxes and seems to think if you question them, you are a racist. You do all realize, this liberal state plays mind games for these minority votes knowing the middle class has to pay the taxes. We finally got a republican governor. Let's hope MC finally wakes up too.


Yes, we should only let rich legal or illegal immigrants into this country because they don't send their kids to public school and use up precious taxpayer funds. How dare those poor Asian immigrants (legal or illegal) increase test scores and make it harder for the middle class white kids to compete. Those Asian immigrants are taking spots away from the white kids in the GT, magnet, IB, TJ programs. They've made schools too competitive with their high test scores. As taxpayers, we should demand they stop their high achievement because it is making it too hard to compete for middle class white kids.


What do you get when the majority of your immigrants are uneducated, unskilled, undocumented and illiterate in English and their own language?

You get Montgomery County.

Everything else (upside down budget, poorly performing schools, redistributed funds) is to be expected here, in one of the most liberal counties in the country.

A far cry from educated, skilled legal immigrants on work visas/greencards or university-educated here. SE Asians and Asians welcome, perhaps your good study habits and positive values (regardless of income level) will rub off on others.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 13:20     Subject: Re:Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:The only reason I supported the gambling legislation several years ago was because the funds were supposed to be directed towards schools. Does anyone know what happened to that money? Also, I am surprised to hear tax revenue has gone down w/ the economy slowly improving. Something doesn't sound right.


A significant part of the tax revenue reduction stems from the federal shut down last year.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 13:17     Subject: Re:Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only reason I supported the gambling legislation several years ago was because the funds were supposed to be directed towards schools. Does anyone know what happened to that money? Also, I am surprised to hear tax revenue has gone down w/ the economy slowly improving. Something doesn't sound right.


Montgomery Country has been bleeding out companies like mad for the last few years. Plus they don't know how to make feasible budget forecasts so overestimated everything from property taxes to income taxes to corporate taxes.
Then on the flipside, their spending continues to be out of control.


What's your explanation for the shortfall in Fairfax County?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 13:16     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:let's look at it this way, the population of the county is at an all time high, the school enrolment is at an all time high yet the county isn;t bringing in as much tax revenue as expected. I wonder why??????

Look at how much the County Executive has cut from the budget the past 10 years, this should not be happening but it is because of the haven that has been created in the county.


Fairfax County also projects a budget shortfall. What's your explanation for that?


same thing, a lot fo free loaders who live in group housing and do not pay taxes.


Aren't schools funded by property tax? If so, then what about all the citizens that live in apartments? They don't pay any property tax, either. So, apt. dwellers shouldn't be allowed to send their kids to public school. So, this is a class issue.

OK, I will confess... I am an immigrant. My parents didn't speak English when we came here, and my siblings had ESL services. We also lived in a 1 br apartment for a while for the 6 of us. I'm so sorry we took advantage of the public schools here, even though now, my siblings and I pay A LOT in taxes, both in property (8K) and income tax (I think one of my tax bill was about 80K one year). When we lived in those apartments, my parents probably payed very little income tax (because they had menial, low paying jobs). So again, I apologize for coming to this country, using up services, and also eventually contributing to the tax base. My siblings and I probably cost the taxpayers money in ESL services and made the schools crowded (since I have 3 other siblings).


Uh... OK.. I forgive you?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 13:16     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
MCPS spends about $12,600 per student per year. Therefore, nobody should be allowed to enroll their child in school for the year until they can prove that they paid at least $12,600 in property taxes last year.

If you have two children in school, you have to have paid at least $25,200. Three children, $37,800. And so on.

Also, if you are an MCPS teacher, you can't send your child to MCPS at all, because it's too complicated to figure out how much you should have to pay in property taxes per child to enroll, given that the money you pay your property taxes with comes from property taxes.

(Note: this is a modest proposal, not a sincere one.)
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 13:13     Subject: Re:Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:The only reason I supported the gambling legislation several years ago was because the funds were supposed to be directed towards schools. Does anyone know what happened to that money? Also, I am surprised to hear tax revenue has gone down w/ the economy slowly improving. Something doesn't sound right.


Montgomery Country has been bleeding out companies like mad for the last few years. Plus they don't know how to make feasible budget forecasts so overestimated everything from property taxes to income taxes to corporate taxes.
Then on the flipside, their spending continues to be out of control.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 13:11     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:If a huge amount of money goes to poor immigrants (legal and especially illegal) there has to be cuts and a lot of them. You want a better school system, less overcrowding, more money going towards your kids and less towards ESL? You need to fight this influx of immigrants entering Montgomery County. Our local government seems to welcome them with open arms with YOUR taxes and seems to think if you question them, you are a racist. You do all realize, this liberal state plays mind games for these minority votes knowing the middle class has to pay the taxes. We finally got a republican governor. Let's hope MC finally wakes up too.


sadly agree. each of the last 5 years the MCPS budget has been gobbled up by additional ESOL and immigrant counseling resources, and trailer classrooms.
nothing will stop the Maryland and even worse MoCo policies towards catering to uneducated, unskilled immigrants. just more flight out of the county and state, until they are out of Fun Money to blow.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 12:58     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:let's look at it this way, the population of the county is at an all time high, the school enrolment is at an all time high yet the county isn;t bringing in as much tax revenue as expected. I wonder why??????

Look at how much the County Executive has cut from the budget the past 10 years, this should not be happening but it is because of the haven that has been created in the county.


Fairfax County also projects a budget shortfall. What's your explanation for that?


same thing, a lot fo free loaders who live in group housing and do not pay taxes.


Aren't schools funded by property tax? If so, then what about all the citizens that live in apartments? They don't pay any property tax, either. So, apt. dwellers shouldn't be allowed to send their kids to public school. So, this is a class issue.

OK, I will confess... I am an immigrant. My parents didn't speak English when we came here, and my siblings had ESL services. We also lived in a 1 br apartment for a while for the 6 of us. I'm so sorry we took advantage of the public schools here, even though now, my siblings and I pay A LOT in taxes, both in property (8K) and income tax (I think one of my tax bill was about 80K one year). When we lived in those apartments, my parents probably payed very little income tax (because they had menial, low paying jobs). So again, I apologize for coming to this country, using up services, and also eventually contributing to the tax base. My siblings and I probably cost the taxpayers money in ESL services and made the schools crowded (since I have 3 other siblings).
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 12:46     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Everybody pays taxes.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 12:44     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:let's look at it this way, the population of the county is at an all time high, the school enrolment is at an all time high yet the county isn;t bringing in as much tax revenue as expected. I wonder why??????

Look at how much the County Executive has cut from the budget the past 10 years, this should not be happening but it is because of the haven that has been created in the county.


Fairfax County also projects a budget shortfall. What's your explanation for that?


same thing, a lot fo free loaders who live in group housing and do not pay taxes.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 12:20     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:let's look at it this way, the population of the county is at an all time high, the school enrolment is at an all time high yet the county isn;t bringing in as much tax revenue as expected. I wonder why??????

Look at how much the County Executive has cut from the budget the past 10 years, this should not be happening but it is because of the haven that has been created in the county.


Fairfax County also projects a budget shortfall. What's your explanation for that?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 12:08     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If a huge amount of money goes to poor immigrants (legal and especially illegal) there has to be cuts and a lot of them. You want a better school system, less overcrowding, more money going towards your kids and less towards ESL? You need to fight this influx of immigrants entering Montgomery County. Our local government seems to welcome them with open arms with YOUR taxes and seems to think if you question them, you are a racist. You do all realize, this liberal state plays mind games for these minority votes knowing the middle class has to pay the taxes. We finally got a republican governor. Let's hope MC finally wakes up too.


Yes, we should only let rich legal or illegal immigrants into this country because they don't send their kids to public school and use up precious taxpayer funds. How dare those poor Asian immigrants (legal or illegal) increase test scores and make it harder for the middle class white kids to compete. Those Asian immigrants are taking spots away from the white kids in the GT, magnet, IB, TJ programs. They've made schools too competitive with their high test scores. As taxpayers, we should demand they stop their high achievement because it is making it too hard to compete for middle class white kids.


Um, no one said anything about Asians or test scores. You really are paranoid.


Look at the bolded in PP's comments. That PP stated ALL immigrants, both legal and illegal, were ruining MCPS. My statement, with sarcasm, is countering those statements.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 12:02     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If a huge amount of money goes to poor immigrants (legal and especially illegal) there has to be cuts and a lot of them. You want a better school system, less overcrowding, more money going towards your kids and less towards ESL? You need to fight this influx of immigrants entering Montgomery County. Our local government seems to welcome them with open arms with YOUR taxes and seems to think if you question them, you are a racist. You do all realize, this liberal state plays mind games for these minority votes knowing the middle class has to pay the taxes. We finally got a republican governor. Let's hope MC finally wakes up too.


Yes, we should only let rich legal or illegal immigrants into this country because they don't send their kids to public school and use up precious taxpayer funds. How dare those poor Asian immigrants (legal or illegal) increase test scores and make it harder for the middle class white kids to compete. Those Asian immigrants are taking spots away from the white kids in the GT, magnet, IB, TJ programs. They've made schools too competitive with their high test scores. As taxpayers, we should demand they stop their high achievement because it is making it too hard to compete for middle class white kids.


Um, no one said anything about Asians or test scores. You really are paranoid.


but entertaining...
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2014 12:00     Subject: Starr to place spending restrictions on Montgomery school system
let's look at it this way, the population of the county is at an all time high, the school enrolment is at an all time high yet the county isn;t bringing in as much tax revenue as expected. I wonder why??????

Look at how much the County Executive has cut from the budget the past 10 years, this should not be happening but it is because of the haven that has been created in the county.