Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 21:01     Subject: Beach Week: Signing the Lease
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teens can't do this w/out parents signing. That should tell you something.


At Dewey Beach the lease signer just had to be 18, which many of the kids were. I think the fact that they were on the hook for the lease was a good thing. The actually took good care of the place.


We have a place where we require the signer to be at least 25. When broken we threaten to sue. Best part is we keep their money and get more. We just send a threatening letter to the lease signer and they cough up a few grand more. Our neighbors a quick to call if it is a bunch kids. Over the last 10 years it has happened 3 times.


Well the house my kids beach week group rented didn't have that provision. And it was a house that had been rented by siblings of the some of the kids in the group for several of the previous years. It was no secret it was a beach week group.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 20:49     Subject: Beach Week: Signing the Lease
http://lfvacations.com/long-and-foster-vacation-rental-polices.htm#occupancyguidelines


Here are the Occupancy guidelines from Long & Foster in Bethany.It clearly states that at least 2 people signing mus be 25 or older and must be in residence at the house. If is is found that they are not there, the group can be terminated immediately.

Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 20:08     Subject: Re:Beach Week: Signing the Lease
In no case are you liable for a kid breaking his neck by jumping from deck to pool because you signed the lease.
I hope none of you lawyers are practicing law.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 19:41     Subject: Re:Beach Week: Signing the Lease
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Protection from a lawsuit is different from not being liable. But, whatever. Yes, terrible things could happen. And yet, many of us who have lived through it are offering OP concrete steps we tool to manage beach week expectations. Or keep your kid from beach week but don't ever imagine that just a few months later s/he'll be abducted and killed at UVA or shot at in the FSU library.


It has no bearing on liability either. The only thing hold harmless agreements are good for is scaring people into thinking they can't sue when something goes wrong.

It's not "the only thing" and sometimes what it is is enough. And signing a lease doesn't render you liable.



Since when? That's the purpose of the lease, and the security deposit, etc. etc. It's to protect the landlord.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 19:38     Subject: Re:Beach Week: Signing the Lease
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Protection from a lawsuit is different from not being liable. But, whatever. Yes, terrible things could happen. And yet, many of us who have lived through it are offering OP concrete steps we tool to manage beach week expectations. Or keep your kid from beach week but don't ever imagine that just a few months later s/he'll be abducted and killed at UVA or shot at in the FSU library.


It has no bearing on liability either. The only thing hold harmless agreements are good for is scaring people into thinking they can't sue when something goes wrong.



Lawyere back: absolutely true. Those emails mean nothing, just like the chit you receive when you have someone park your car saying they are not responsible. They are liable and responsible.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 19:30     Subject: Re:Beach Week: Signing the Lease
Anonymous wrote:Just tell your friend to invite a kid who was redshirted. They will be 18 and able to sign the lease. I had my 18 year old boyfriend sign our lease. Our principal gave the same speech to parents encouraging them not to sign leases and encouraging them to say no to beach week. We had our lease signed in November and paid for our rental ourselves. A few friends had parents who were fine with them coming with us. Anyone who had parents that were not inclined to give permission, I talked to. We had a full house when the time came.

Honey, except for the summer bday kids, every senior is 18 by beach week.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 19:11     Subject: Beach Week: Signing the Lease
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teens can't do this w/out parents signing. That should tell you something.


At Dewey Beach the lease signer just had to be 18, which many of the kids were. I think the fact that they were on the hook for the lease was a good thing. The actually took good care of the place.


We have a place where we require the signer to be at least 25. When broken we threaten to sue. Best part is we keep their money and get more. We just send a threatening letter to the lease signer and they cough up a few grand more. Our neighbors a quick to call if it is a bunch kids. Over the last 10 years it has happened 3 times.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 19:00     Subject: Beach Week: Signing the Lease
Anonymous wrote:Teens can't do this w/out parents signing. That should tell you something.


At Dewey Beach the lease signer just had to be 18, which many of the kids were. I think the fact that they were on the hook for the lease was a good thing. The actually took good care of the place.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 18:56     Subject: Re:Beach Week: Signing the Lease
Just tell your friend to invite a kid who was redshirted. They will be 18 and able to sign the lease. I had my 18 year old boyfriend sign our lease. Our principal gave the same speech to parents encouraging them not to sign leases and encouraging them to say no to beach week. We had our lease signed in November and paid for our rental ourselves. A few friends had parents who were fine with them coming with us. Anyone who had parents that were not inclined to give permission, I talked to. We had a full house when the time came.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 18:49     Subject: Re:Beach Week: Signing the Lease
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have a house at the beach. We see kids drinking on the roof of this one house with a low slope roof all the time. I now have the owner and relators contact info so I can call to let them know. Kids are not smart, don't do it.


Yes, and those "not smart" kids will be at UVA a few weeks after beach week. Will you go to UVA with them?


this was in response to signing the lease, not allowing them to go or not.

One requires the other: if you allow them to go, a parent must sign the lease.


One parent, not all parents!
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 18:47     Subject: Re:Beach Week: Signing the Lease
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have a house at the beach. We see kids drinking on the roof of this one house with a low slope roof all the time. I now have the owner and relators contact info so I can call to let them know. Kids are not smart, don't do it.


Yes, and those "not smart" kids will be at UVA a few weeks after beach week. Will you go to UVA with them?


this was in response to signing the lease, not allowing them to go or not.

One requires the other: if you allow them to go, a parent must sign the lease.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 18:35     Subject: Re:Beach Week: Signing the Lease
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have a house at the beach. We see kids drinking on the roof of this one house with a low slope roof all the time. I now have the owner and relators contact info so I can call to let them know. Kids are not smart, don't do it.


Yes, and those "not smart" kids will be at UVA a few weeks after beach week. Will you go to UVA with them?


this was in response to signing the lease, not allowing them to go or not.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2014 17:58     Subject: Beach Week: Signing the Lease
Teens can't do this w/out parents signing. That should tell you something.