Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an Ivy grad and I'm uncomfortable with policies that explicitly limit acceptances based on racial identification. I'm equally uncomfortable with policies that explicitly privilege admissions based on racial identification.

My children are half Caucasian, half non-Caucasian. If the other half is Latino or African-American, they get a leg up. If it is Asian, they get discriminated against. Seems wildly un-American to me.

Would it be more American to have the Elite colleges consist of 50 percent Asians, 48 percent whites, and two percent combo of AA and Hispanics? In a country that looks nothing like that?

Not PP but what's wrong with that if it reflects the most qualified students?

By what measure? Standardized test scores? With no concept of the myriad advantages that led to those test scores?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an Ivy grad and I'm uncomfortable with policies that explicitly limit acceptances based on racial identification. I'm equally uncomfortable with policies that explicitly privilege admissions based on racial identification.

My children are half Caucasian, half non-Caucasian. If the other half is Latino or African-American, they get a leg up. If it is Asian, they get discriminated against. Seems wildly un-American to me.

Would it be more American to have the Elite colleges consist of 50 percent Asians, 48 percent whites, and two percent combo of AA and Hispanics? In a country that looks nothing like that?

Not PP but what's wrong with that if it reflects the most qualified students?

Not one doggone thing EXCEPT that contrary to popular opinion, Asian applicants do not have a monopoly on intelligence. Nor do whites. Nor do AA

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an Ivy grad and I'm uncomfortable with policies that explicitly limit acceptances based on racial identification. I'm equally uncomfortable with policies that explicitly privilege admissions based on racial identification.

My children are half Caucasian, half non-Caucasian. If the other half is Latino or African-American, they get a leg up. If it is Asian, they get discriminated against. Seems wildly un-American to me.

Would it be more American to have the Elite colleges consist of 50 percent Asians, 48 percent whites, and two percent combo of AA and Hispanics? In a country that looks nothing like that?

Not PP but what's wrong with that if it reflects the most qualified students?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an Ivy grad and I'm uncomfortable with policies that explicitly limit acceptances based on racial identification. I'm equally uncomfortable with policies that explicitly privilege admissions based on racial identification.

My children are half Caucasian, half non-Caucasian. If the other half is Latino or African-American, they get a leg up. If it is Asian, they get discriminated against. Seems wildly un-American to me.

Would it be more American to have the Elite colleges consist of 50 percent Asians, 48 percent whites, and two percent combo of AA and Hispanics? In a country that looks nothing like that?

Not PP but what's wrong with that if it reflects the most qualified students?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an Ivy grad and I'm uncomfortable with policies that explicitly limit acceptances based on racial identification. I'm equally uncomfortable with policies that explicitly privilege admissions based on racial identification.

My children are half Caucasian, half non-Caucasian. If the other half is Latino or African-American, they get a leg up. If it is Asian, they get discriminated against. Seems wildly un-American to me.

Would it be more American to have the Elite colleges consist of 50 percent Asians, 48 percent whites, and two percent combo of AA and Hispanics? In a country that looks nothing like that?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an Ivy grad and I'm uncomfortable with policies that explicitly limit acceptances based on racial identification. I'm equally uncomfortable with policies that explicitly privilege admissions based on racial identification.

My children are half Caucasian, half non-Caucasian. If the other half is Latino or African-American, they get a leg up. If it is Asian, they get discriminated against. Seems wildly un-American to me.

Would it be more American to have the Elite colleges consist of 50 percent Asians, 48 percent whites, and two percent combo of AA and Hispanics? In a country that looks nothing like that?

Anonymous wrote:I'm an Ivy grad and I'm uncomfortable with policies that explicitly limit acceptances based on racial identification. I'm equally uncomfortable with policies that explicitly privilege admissions based on racial identification.

My children are half Caucasian, half non-Caucasian. If the other half is Latino or African-American, they get a leg up. If it is Asian, they get discriminated against. Seems wildly un-American to me.

Anonymous wrote:I'm an Ivy grad and I'm uncomfortable with policies that explicitly limit acceptances based on racial identification. I'm equally uncomfortable with policies that explicitly privilege admissions based on racial identification.

My children are half Caucasian, half non-Caucasian. If the other half is Latino or African-American, they get a leg up. If it is Asian, they get discriminated against. Seems wildly un-American to me.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is not just relying on test scores: it has to do with a concerted effort to limit Asians at some of these schools because they don't want a student population that is skewed towards Asians.

This is outright racism and should not be tolerated.

Check out this link and how blatant the discrimination is against Asians.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/thewideangle/item/tolerating_intolerance

Cal Tech is over 60% Asian. I don't think that's discrimination.

And that is precisely why some of the elite colleges discriminate against Asians. They don't want a student population that looks like Cal Tech.

It has nothing to do with wanting well rounded applicants ...... it has to do with wanting fewer Asians so that they don't end up looking like Cal Tech.

You could use the same argument about other races. Respectfully, do you feel that every university should be overwhelmingly Asian because statistically the number of Asian applicants has significantly increased?

Not at all. But the fact that elite schools do limit the number of Asians is not seriously debated any more. It is done under different guises but the end result is the same.

Now whether this can be proven in court is a different issue.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue is not just relying on test scores: it has to do with a concerted effort to limit Asians at some of these schools because they don't want a student population that is skewed towards Asians.

This is outright racism and should not be tolerated.

Check out this link and how blatant the discrimination is against Asians.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/thewideangle/item/tolerating_intolerance

Cal Tech is over 60% Asian. I don't think that's discrimination.

And that is precisely why some of the elite colleges discriminate against Asians. They don't want a student population that looks like Cal Tech.

It has nothing to do with wanting well rounded applicants ...... it has to do with wanting fewer Asians so that they don't end up looking like Cal Tech.

You could use the same argument about other races. Respectfully, do you feel that every university should be overwhelmingly Asian because statistically the number of Asian applicants has significantly increased?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems nutty. There are tons of Asians at all the Ivies. If the plaintiffs want to argue they are "better qualified" than others, the institutions can just change the required qualifications. Schools ought to be allowed to look at more than test scores, as they are prone to abuse.

http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2013/05/28/group-of-south-koreans-barred-from-sat/

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/31/world/asia/china-south-korea-students-fallout-suspected-sat-cheating.html?_r=0

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/stuyvesant-high-school-caught-cheating-scandal-regents-exams-student-banned-cell-phone-distribute-answers-classmates-article-1.1102124

Hey asshole!
This lawsuit is about discrimination against Asian AMERICANS. And you're purposely trying to mislead people with cheating incidence from South Korea and China.

Not the PP but maybe you need to cool your jets and watch your language if you want to have an intelligent debate.

You don't have intelligent debates with assholes. You point out they're assholes. That's all.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue is not just relying on test scores: it has to do with a concerted effort to limit Asians at some of these schools because they don't want a student population that is skewed towards Asians.

This is outright racism and should not be tolerated.

Check out this link and how blatant the discrimination is against Asians.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/thewideangle/item/tolerating_intolerance

Cal Tech is over 60% Asian. I don't think that's discrimination.

And that is precisely why some of the elite colleges discriminate against Asians. They don't want a student population that looks like Cal Tech.

It has nothing to do with wanting well rounded applicants ...... it has to do with wanting fewer Asians so that they don't end up looking like Cal Tech.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue is not just relying on test scores: it has to do with a concerted effort to limit Asians at some of these schools because they don't want a student population that is skewed towards Asians.

This is outright racism and should not be tolerated.

Check out this link and how blatant the discrimination is against Asians.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/thewideangle/item/tolerating_intolerance

Cal Tech is over 60% Asian. I don't think that's discrimination.

And that is precisely why some of the elite colleges discriminate against Asians. They don't want a student population that looks like Cal Tech.

It has nothing to do with wanting well rounded applicants ...... it has to do with wanting fewer Asians so that they don't end up looking like Cal Tech.