Anonymous wrote:It is wasted, not waisted.

Yes!

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Anonymous wrote:OP, could be that you are not as valuable a commodity as you like to think yourself as. Market value is market value.
Why would a new company go out on a limb and pay you substantially higher for this position than the market value?

Op here, I have a 2014 salary guide that I based my requirements on, the salary I requested is average, they are offering the low end of the range.

As far as you needing to cost in before and after school care, commute, etc. that's not the company's problem. They likely have local candidates without those issues. You want the job, you deal with those issues. They're not there to accommodate you for your lifestyle.

Of course they are not the company's problems, but knowing the changes I will have to deal with is helpful in the final decision I make.

But you didn't present it as "should I take this job" you presented it in the "the NERVE of this company for offering me this" vein. I'm not sure what is better about the new job.

Anonymous wrote:OP, could be that you are not as valuable a commodity as you like to think yourself as. Market value is market value.
Why would a new company go out on a limb and pay you substantially higher for this position than the market value?

Op here, I have a 2014 salary guide that I based my requirements on, the salary I requested is average, they are offering the low end of the range.

As far as you needing to cost in before and after school care, commute, etc. that's not the company's problem. They likely have local candidates without those issues. You want the job, you deal with those issues. They're not there to accommodate you for your lifestyle.

Of course they are not the company's problems, but knowing the changes I will have to deal with is helpful in the final decision I make.

OP, could be that you are not as valuable a commodity as you like to think yourself as. Market value is market value.
Why would a new company go out on a limb and pay you substantially higher for this position than the market value?

If it means a raise, and a higher scope for learning advancement, then that in itself is reason to jump if that's what's important to you. Work your ass off, get a raise and be at the value you "expect" to be within a years time.

As far as you needing to cost in before and after school care, commute, etc. that's not the company's problem. They likely have local candidates without those issues. You want the job, you deal with those issues. They're not there to accommodate you for your lifestyle.

Anonymous wrote:You mentioned the new job would be twice the commute and longer hours. Even if they offered you 20-30k more, would that really be worth it to you?

I tend to factor my commute into the hours I work per week and figure out how much my salary is really worth an hour. Even with a promotion, you may end up being paid less per hour and be stuck paying for after school care. Maybe you dodged a bullet on this one.

I am willing to take the long commute, I will be working 40 instead of 35 hrs/week. I am willing to break even if it means I will be learning new things. Current company is my first real job and I have been there for years, held several positions and feel like I am not learning anymore, especially after the change in staff we had. The new company is prestigious and would look great on my resume, people working there are top notch.

You mentioned the new job would be twice the commute and longer hours. Even if they offered you 20-30k more, would that really be worth it to you?

I tend to factor my commute into the hours I work per week and figure out how much my salary is really worth an hour. Even with a promotion, you may end up being paid less per hour and be stuck paying for after school care. Maybe you dodged a bullet on this one.