Anonymous wrote:In all honesty, I cared more than I should have, because I wanted the other team to lose - nothing against the players, plus they don't care anyway - for their coaches behaviors. I know a tie was already a big blow to their egos ("we beat this team 6-3 two weeks ago!!!") but I wanted them to suffer even more for the negativity they exhibited during the game.

I was so ready to write to the league after the game but wanted to know if I was out of line, hence this thread. Now I probably won't do that but it's still quite a disappointment.

Look at home many times you said I in your post. who is the palyer and who is living through their kid

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Anonymous wrote:Next time you volunteer to ref and you can end the game however you want.

Defensive much? Rules are rules, volunteer or not. One's not morally superior because he volunteer, especially not when calls are questionable.

Questionable? Lots of calls are questionable.

The ref would have to be really, really wrong to deserve some sort of complaint to the league -- a total misapplication of the Laws of the Game (I've seen a few), allowing a dangerous situation to persist, etc.

Ending the game when time runs out? Unless a kid literally has the game-winning shot on his foot, I'd shake it off and shake hands.

Simply put -- the case has not been made here that this is worth a complaint. It just seems like whining from people who don't know the game and don't care to step up and learn. (Though the OP, to give full credit, asked before complaining and has decided not to do so.)

Anonymous wrote:Next time you volunteer to ref and you can end the game however you want.

Defensive much? Rules are rules, volunteer or not. One's not morally superior because he volunteer, especially not when calls are questionable.

Next time you volunteer to ref and you can end the game however you want.

The parent might not have a lot of reffing background.

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Anonymous wrote:the game stops when the time runs out, not when the play is over!

do you actually think that is the rule in soccer?

In common practice, no. But every now and then, even at the highest levels, refs will stop things rather abruptly. Not often, but sometimes.

The Laws of the Game say only that it's at the discretion of the referee.

Which is why it's a questionable call by this parent ref. Why rush to end the game in a middle of a play? It didn't make it more fun nor help player development. On the contrary, letting the kids finish the play would. That's the goal of rec soccer.

Field permit running out? Some other reason to get off the field? Who knows?

Also, I'm not quite sure what we mean here by "middle of a play." At U10, I think the only time I'd object would be if one team had the ball in the other team's box. This isn't a counterattack with the ball at Landon Donovan's feet.

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Anonymous wrote:the game stops when the time runs out, not when the play is over!

do you actually think that is the rule in soccer?

In common practice, no. But every now and then, even at the highest levels, refs will stop things rather abruptly. Not often, but sometimes.

The Laws of the Game say only that it's at the discretion of the referee.

Which is why it's a questionable call by this parent ref. Why rush to end the game in a middle of a play? It didn't make it more fun nor help player development. On the contrary, letting the kids finish the play would. That's the goal of rec soccer.

And what constitutes a play? You want to wait untill the ball goes out of bounds? Give it a a rest or pick up a whistle yourself. Its easy to second guess the refs.....

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Anonymous wrote:the game stops when the time runs out, not when the play is over!

do you actually think that is the rule in soccer?

In common practice, no. But every now and then, even at the highest levels, refs will stop things rather abruptly. Not often, but sometimes.

The Laws of the Game say only that it's at the discretion of the referee.

Which is why it's a questionable call by this parent ref. Why rush to end the game in a middle of a play? It didn't make it more fun nor help player development. On the contrary, letting the kids finish the play would. That's the goal of rec soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:the game stops when the time runs out, not when the play is over!

do you actually think that is the rule in soccer?

In common practice, no. But every now and then, even at the highest levels, refs will stop things rather abruptly. Not often, but sometimes.

The Laws of the Game say only that it's at the discretion of the referee.

Calling out the time is quite common in youth soccer, especially if there are a number of substitutes to be made. Helps the coaches manage the playing time for everyone.

Anonymous wrote:In all honesty, I cared more than I should have, because I wanted the other team to lose - nothing against the players, plus they don't care anyway - for their coaches behaviors. I know a tie was already a big blow to their egos ("we beat this team 6-3 two weeks ago!!!") but I wanted them to suffer even more for the negativity they exhibited during the game.

I was so ready to write to the league after the game but wanted to know if I was out of line, hence this thread. Now I probably won't do that but it's still quite a disappointment.

OP, if you want to write to the league, write to them about the opposing coaches' behavior, not about stoppage time.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I honestly think you're over thinking this. It was a U10 game and these are 9 year olds. Who cares??? And this was a volunteer ref? Be grateful he stepped up.

Not OP, but I wanted to chime in and say that in my book it's always ok to be curious about things, even if they are inconsequential. OP did not indicate that some great injustice had been done here.

Never mind--just saw OP's update.

In all honesty, I cared more than I should have, because I wanted the other team to lose - nothing against the players, plus they don't care anyway - for their coaches behaviors. I know a tie was already a big blow to their egos ("we beat this team 6-3 two weeks ago!!!") but I wanted them to suffer even more for the negativity they exhibited during the game.

I was so ready to write to the league after the game but wanted to know if I was out of line, hence this thread. Now I probably won't do that but it's still quite a disappointment.

Anonymous wrote:OP here -

I purposely withheld one piece of key information because I wanted to hear unbiased opinions. Thanks for your input.

Now, the ref in question, was actually a parent of the other team (paid ref was a no show). He seemed very capable and experienced doing the officiating the majority of the game. The only 'odd' things he did were 1) telling the field there's 15 mins left, then 12 mins left, then 5 mins left. then 2 mins left'; and 2) the end of game whistle in the middle of a play.

If you're still reading you know what I'm getting at - i felt he went out of his way to preserve the tie. am i way off base to think that?

I think you are way overinvested in the outcome of a meaningless soccer game played by 9 year olds.

Anonymous wrote:OP, I honestly think you're over thinking this. It was a U10 game and these are 9 year olds. Who cares??? And this was a volunteer ref? Be grateful he stepped up.

Not OP, but I wanted to chime in and say that in my book it's always ok to be curious about things, even if they are inconsequential. OP did not indicate that some great injustice had been done here.