Anonymous
10/24/2014 10:44
Subject: Re:Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Asperger's syndrome is no longer a diagnostic label in the DSM-5. It is still floating around as a concept, though, and is used as a short hand to describe a certain kind of kid with an ASD: normal to high IQ, good expressive speech, good receptive speech, poor pragmatic speech, poor social skills. They tend to have somewhat rigid personalities and may have preservative interests. They may also have some sensory processing issues.
I've got a 7YO DD like this, but she just does not fit enough of the criterial to be diagnosed as this. Like, clinically. I call it "sub-spectral." We call her "our little mystery"
It's much harder to get an ASD/Aspergers diagnosis in girls. They present differently from boys. I'm the pp above with the son and nephews who have AS and suspect that my mother probably would have got the same diagnosis.
At the very least, I would take her to someone like Dr. David Black to get an evaluation.
Anonymous
10/24/2014 08:49
Subject: Re:Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
Anonymous wrote:Asperger's syndrome is no longer a diagnostic label in the DSM-5. It is still floating around as a concept, though, and is used as a short hand to describe a certain kind of kid with an ASD: normal to high IQ, good expressive speech, good receptive speech, poor pragmatic speech, poor social skills. They tend to have somewhat rigid personalities and may have preservative interests. They may also have some sensory processing issues.
I've got a 7YO DD like this, but she just does not fit enough of the criterial to be diagnosed as this. Like, clinically. I call it "sub-spectral." We call her "our little mystery"
Anonymous
10/23/2014 23:15
Subject: Re:Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS is in an Aspergers program within a regular school, which is a combination of self-contained and mainstream classes - seems like a good mix.
In Montgomery County or elsewhere?
Yes, montgomery county
Anonymous
10/23/2014 16:17
Subject: Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are most kids with Asperger's mainstreamed? What differentiates those who are mainstreamed versus those who are not? I assume some of them are profoundly gifted so they may do better in a gifted program that does or does not also cater to kids with SN but what about those with average cognitive abilities? Where do they end up?
Well you would assume wrong.
For people with autism, "About 40 percent have average to above average intellectual abilities..."
http://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism
Which is keeping with the general population...
http://www.edublox.com/iq-test/iq04.htm
Giftedness is more than just IQ in any case.
75% of the general population has average to above average IQ, so no, the distribution for people with autism isn't the same. However one way that is the same is that a portion of people with autism are profoundly gifted, just like a portion of people without autism are profoundly gifted.
Average IQ is 90 and above, about 64% of the population scores in that range. If you count "low average" people who score at 80 and above, you include about 90% of people.
Anonymous
10/23/2014 15:35
Subject: Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
Anonymous wrote:My kid with ASD/Asperger's is mainstreamed with an IEP in 2nd grade. He was diagnosed in preK4. Attends an immersion language school since preK4. Has a sky high IQ. Does well academically and socially with supports. Has an IEP for social/communication issues. Gets OT and ST for pragmatics for 1 hr, once a wk. Has a bilingual Sp Ed teacher in an inclusive classroom who helps him as needed.
DS was described as "classic Aspergers" by his developmental pediatrician but looks/acts NT - you couldn't tell whether he has any diagnosis at all: Basically just like his father and grandfather.
I don't think you can generalize thus the saying, "If you met one kid with Aspergers, you've met one kid with Aspergers."
Also, DS has cousins, 8 and 10, who also are diagnosed with ASD/Asperger's and have IEPs. They are both mainstreamed at a public charter that specializes in gifted kids with IQs over 130+ in another city. His cousins are both nationally ranked in Rubik's cube and chess for their age groups.
Anonymous
10/23/2014 12:45
Subject: Re:Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
Anonymous wrote:DS is in an Aspergers program within a regular school, which is a combination of self-contained and mainstream classes - seems like a good mix.
In Montgomery County or elsewhere?
Anonymous
10/23/2014 11:07
Subject: Re:Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
DS is in an Aspergers program within a regular school, which is a combination of self-contained and mainstream classes - seems like a good mix.
Anonymous
10/23/2014 11:06
Subject: Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
Anonymous wrote:
My son has Aspie tendencies like his father and his (diagnosed) cousin. His IQ subscores vary widely, and it is difficult to challenge him appropriately given that he has learning disabilities as well. Right now he is mainstreamed in a MoCo ES, with an aide. No one at school recognized he had any gifts at all before 4th grade, when they started writing longer pieces and he impressed his teacher with his in-depth thinking (but not the time it took for him to produce such an effort!).
Ideally, I should homeschool him. But I don't have the patience.
Try not to be hard on yourself for not homeschooling. Aspie kids really need the social interaction at school anyway.
Anonymous
10/22/2014 22:06
Subject: Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
My son has Aspie tendencies like his father and his (diagnosed) cousin. His IQ subscores vary widely, and it is difficult to challenge him appropriately given that he has learning disabilities as well. Right now he is mainstreamed in a MoCo ES, with an aide. No one at school recognized he had any gifts at all before 4th grade, when they started writing longer pieces and he impressed his teacher with his in-depth thinking (but not the time it took for him to produce such an effort!).
Ideally, I should homeschool him. But I don't have the patience.
Anonymous
10/22/2014 21:55
Subject: Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are most kids with Asperger's mainstreamed? What differentiates those who are mainstreamed versus those who are not? I assume some of them are profoundly gifted so they may do better in a gifted program that does or does not also cater to kids with SN but what about those with average cognitive abilities? Where do they end up?
Well you would assume wrong.
For people with autism, "About 40 percent have average to above average intellectual abilities..."
http://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism
Which is keeping with the general population...
http://www.edublox.com/iq-test/iq04.htm
Giftedness is more than just IQ in any case.
75% of the general population has average to above average IQ, so no, the distribution for people with autism isn't the same. However one way that is the same is that a portion of people with autism are profoundly gifted, just like a portion of people without autism are profoundly gifted.
Anonymous
10/22/2014 21:49
Subject: Re:Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
I mainstream my son. Traditionally autistic behaviors (flapping hands, repetitive noises) annoy the crap out of him, though he engages in them himself sometimes. He does better with mostly NT kids around.
Anonymous
10/22/2014 17:31
Subject: Re:Did you mainstream your DC with Asperger's?
Sorry for the typo, "The savants described in the article you linked to aren't specified to have Aspergers."