Anonymous
10/20/2014 22:44
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:janney called me in mid-september for first grade, yes. she wasn't crying then about the yelling or i might have tried harder to figure it out.
yes, true, it's the recess and aftercare that are the main issue. i will try to pick her up earlier than 6pm when i can
Glad she's a priority "when [you] can!"
Yes, the bitchy PP who probably has a lawyer husband so that she can SAH on his middle class income of $400K is so judgmental of those who work out of the house and have no options.
Anonymous
10/20/2014 22:40
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that you leave a 6 year old for 10 hours a day. That's shitty of you. What kind of a life is that? Now wonder she is on edge.
Don't listen to to this troll! Like most people have a choice!
Most people do choose, you chose where you live. You chose your lifestyle. Many people live on less but you chose a different standard of living. Own it.
You and dh could stagger hours. There are options. Maybe you chose careers that aren't flexible. You chose that. You are not a victim.
Im not sure why you are feel you can be so shitty and entitled but I will pray for you. I chose where to live because it was what I could afford as a single parent. No DH in the picture. Maybe i left a domestic violence situation, maybe DH died, mabye my daughter is adopted. You dont' know my story so you really shoudn't be so judegemental. I did the lottery and like I said, she got into janney but I couldn't figure out the logistics of getting her there and getting to work on time. I don't have the flexibility to arrive late every day.
I'm not a victim, I just want the best for my little girl and all the little boys and girls at her school frankly. They all deserve better.
Anonymous
10/20/2014 22:35
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
She is getting yelled at personally and in a group. The teachers like to be controlling for no apparent reason. For example, I was there one day when the kids were lining up for recess (not her class) and the teacher said to get their coats. One boy said he didn't want his so she yelled to get his coat. He had on an undershirt and a long-sleeved shirt so he didn't get it. She yelled again and he said he'd be find without it (and granted it was about 50 degrees, not 20) and she screamed, "I am not ASKING you, i am TELLING to GO GET YOUR COAT NOW!!!!" Totally uncalled for , imo. Why not have him suffer the natural consequences of being cold if he chose not to get it. The point is, I find that the teachers there just want the children to jump and not have a mind of their own. I know that at times children can't be left to make their own decisions but that situation seemed over the top.
She gets yelled at for any number of things like this I suspect.
She gets yelled at for any number of things like this I suspect.
Anonymous
10/20/2014 22:31
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that you leave a 6 year old for 10 hours a day. That's shitty of you. What kind of a life is that? Now wonder she is on edge.
Don't listen to to this troll! Like most people have a choice!
Most people do choose, you chose where you live. You chose your lifestyle. Many people live on less but you chose a different standard of living. Own it.
You and dh could stagger hours. There are options. Maybe you chose careers that aren't flexible. You chose that. You are not a victim.
Anonymous
10/20/2014 22:30
Subject: Re:daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
Anonymous wrote:I'm really sorry; this sounds rough. We all love our kids and it's hard to see them feeling hurt and then acting out about it.
If it were me, I would try to dig a little deeper into when the yelling occurs. For example, is it behavior-controlling yelling on the playground? Is it yelling during snacktime? (I worked at an after-care program and the director was a total dictator about behavior during snack. I could not understand why, but she was just an irritable tyrant, and I'm sure she scarred some of these kids.) Maybe you could just happen to pick your daughter up during one of these times and witness it. I'd also talk to any of the other parents if you can to gather info.
Then, I'd try to meet with the principal and focus my requests on a few targeted elements of the after-care/recess program. Sounds like s/he brushed off your inquiry in the past, and I'm sure principals would rather think about anything than aftercare, but too bad. You can come with the explicit info of, eg, "It sounds like there's an expectation that kids be silent during snack, and that it results in a lot of yelling. Do you think we can approach the program director about this and see what they need for that part to go more smoothly? Do they need smaller tables, fewer kids, more staff on hand, or just to adjust the expectation that kids eat silently? I know they must want calm during that time, but I feel like we need to reduce the amount of yelling that results." I'd thank the principal for anything s/he could give me here and say I'd call back in a week to see if s/he talked to the after-care director and how it went.
In the meantime, I'd also clarify with my daughter that while I'm really sorry she's stressed, and I want her to tell me about what upsets her, she can't bring that kind of behavior home.
I hope that's useful in some form or another! Good luck!!
Thank you for these suggestions. I will do just this.
Anonymous
10/20/2014 22:09
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
No yelling in anger is acceptable ever at school. Shouldn't happen. It's completely unprofessional. No way. If the principal isn't handling it take it the next level of administration.
Anonymous
10/20/2014 22:07
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
I'm a gym teacher and I yell a lot. I'm in charge of a lot of kids at once, and especially outside, they can't all hear me unless I yell.
So find out if they're yelling AT her or TO her, and if they're yelling JUST at her or at big groups of kids. These things make a big difference.
If she is the ONLY kid being yelled at, work with her to find out what she's doing wrong. Some kids get all riled up by being in a big group and their concentration goes to shit.
So find out if they're yelling AT her or TO her, and if they're yelling JUST at her or at big groups of kids. These things make a big difference.
If she is the ONLY kid being yelled at, work with her to find out what she's doing wrong. Some kids get all riled up by being in a big group and their concentration goes to shit.
Anonymous
10/20/2014 22:05
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
Principals will not touch aftercare. They will direct you to the aftercare coordinator.
Anonymous
10/20/2014 22:02
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
Anonymous wrote:The problem is that you leave a 6 year old for 10 hours a day. That's shitty of you. What kind of a life is that? Now wonder she is on edge.
Don't listen to to this troll! Like most people have a choice!
Anonymous
10/20/2014 22:01
Subject: Re:daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
I'm really sorry; this sounds rough. We all love our kids and it's hard to see them feeling hurt and then acting out about it.
If it were me, I would try to dig a little deeper into when the yelling occurs. For example, is it behavior-controlling yelling on the playground? Is it yelling during snacktime? (I worked at an after-care program and the director was a total dictator about behavior during snack. I could not understand why, but she was just an irritable tyrant, and I'm sure she scarred some of these kids.) Maybe you could just happen to pick your daughter up during one of these times and witness it. I'd also talk to any of the other parents if you can to gather info.
Then, I'd try to meet with the principal and focus my requests on a few targeted elements of the after-care/recess program. Sounds like s/he brushed off your inquiry in the past, and I'm sure principals would rather think about anything than aftercare, but too bad. You can come with the explicit info of, eg, "It sounds like there's an expectation that kids be silent during snack, and that it results in a lot of yelling. Do you think we can approach the program director about this and see what they need for that part to go more smoothly? Do they need smaller tables, fewer kids, more staff on hand, or just to adjust the expectation that kids eat silently? I know they must want calm during that time, but I feel like we need to reduce the amount of yelling that results." I'd thank the principal for anything s/he could give me here and say I'd call back in a week to see if s/he talked to the after-care director and how it went.
In the meantime, I'd also clarify with my daughter that while I'm really sorry she's stressed, and I want her to tell me about what upsets her, she can't bring that kind of behavior home.
I hope that's useful in some form or another! Good luck!!
If it were me, I would try to dig a little deeper into when the yelling occurs. For example, is it behavior-controlling yelling on the playground? Is it yelling during snacktime? (I worked at an after-care program and the director was a total dictator about behavior during snack. I could not understand why, but she was just an irritable tyrant, and I'm sure she scarred some of these kids.) Maybe you could just happen to pick your daughter up during one of these times and witness it. I'd also talk to any of the other parents if you can to gather info.
Then, I'd try to meet with the principal and focus my requests on a few targeted elements of the after-care/recess program. Sounds like s/he brushed off your inquiry in the past, and I'm sure principals would rather think about anything than aftercare, but too bad. You can come with the explicit info of, eg, "It sounds like there's an expectation that kids be silent during snack, and that it results in a lot of yelling. Do you think we can approach the program director about this and see what they need for that part to go more smoothly? Do they need smaller tables, fewer kids, more staff on hand, or just to adjust the expectation that kids eat silently? I know they must want calm during that time, but I feel like we need to reduce the amount of yelling that results." I'd thank the principal for anything s/he could give me here and say I'd call back in a week to see if s/he talked to the after-care director and how it went.
In the meantime, I'd also clarify with my daughter that while I'm really sorry she's stressed, and I want her to tell me about what upsets her, she can't bring that kind of behavior home.
I hope that's useful in some form or another! Good luck!!
Anonymous
10/20/2014 21:59
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:janney called me in mid-september for first grade, yes. she wasn't crying then about the yelling or i might have tried harder to figure it out.
yes, true, it's the recess and aftercare that are the main issue. i will try to pick her up earlier than 6pm when i can
Glad she's a priority "when [you] can!"
I'm going to guess that the priority is making enough money at the job to house, clothe, and feed the family. So yes, it sucks that the little girl has to endure yelling on the playground. Mom sounds as if she hates that her daughter is there.
So glad your work is flexible enough that your child would never have to endure such a situation. Not everyone is that fortunate.
Anonymous
10/20/2014 21:56
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:janney called me in mid-september for first grade, yes. she wasn't crying then about the yelling or i might have tried harder to figure it out.
yes, true, it's the recess and aftercare that are the main issue. i will try to pick her up earlier than 6pm when i can
Glad she's a priority "when [you] can!"
Well, she doesn't want it to interfere with her life.
Anonymous
10/20/2014 21:56
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:janney called me in mid-september for first grade, yes. she wasn't crying then about the yelling or i might have tried harder to figure it out.
yes, true, it's the recess and aftercare that are the main issue. i will try to pick her up earlier than 6pm when i can
Glad she's a priority "when [you] can!"
Perhaps the highest priority is earning a salary so that the child can be fed, clothed & housed.
Anonymous
10/20/2014 21:55
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
No wonder..
Anonymous
10/20/2014 21:55
Subject: daughter upset at al the teachers yelling
The problem is that you leave a 6 year old for 10 hours a day. That's shitty of you. What kind of a life is that? Now wonder she is on edge.