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2.0 is MPCS's curriculum to meet Common Core standards. CC standards for math seeks to push critical thinking and reasoning rather than just rote memorization. How 2.0 math achieves these standards has been very controversial, well, so has CC in general. Personally, I think some of the push for critical thinking and reasoning in math is good. Some of the ways it's been executed is bad, but this seems to be school and/or teacher specific as well.

Just threw up……

OP this is the PR bull shit that MCPS and a few dumber than dumb parents who just parrot whatever MCPS says will tell you. 2.0 math is a disaster. Your child is probably struggling because its a mixed up shit bag of stupidity. Its terribly confusing for kids that aren't super math oriented because it presents math in no logical order repeats very easy problems over and over again but expects the students to go through very unintuitive, cumbersome, and illogical processes for that type of problem. The kids must follow the teacher step by step and remember all the ridiculous steps because their are either no instructions on the homework sheet or very vague ones.

OP for second grade you could try a math after school activity, Mathnasium or even Kumon. MCPS types love to bash Kumon but for kids who struggle having a strong foundation in the basics and understanding the relationship between those equations is very helpful.

The way math was taught pre-2.0 was a lot of rote memorization as well, following the teachers step by step instructions. Yes, there are more steps in 2.0 math because it is trying to show that there are many ways to do math. Kumon math is just regurgitation as well - worksheet after worksheet. A kid might be so much more advanced using Kumon because they will be able to do multiplication by 1st grade, but most kids that are pushed to advance will not have the numeracy, and may be missing basic math understanding.

I am some what new to this area, and I was curious what people (on this forum at least) thought about math pre 2.0. So, I looked at the very old posts (2009-2010) about math in MCPS. There were *a lot* of posts about how math in MCPS was a disaster back then - "a mile wide and an inch thick" was the running theme. 2.0, I believe, is trying to address that problem. The curriculum, in ES at least, goes over less subject matter but goes much more in-depth.

I'm not saying 2.0 math is perfect. I stated, as have many parents, including some that are in the STEM field, feel that 2.0 math has some good points. The curriculum is not perfect, and the execution less so. But it is new, to both teachers and parents alike. And it doesn't help that some ES teachers are weak in math to begin with (a product of the old way of teaching math). Yes, there is a huge learning curve and growth pains. Unfortunately, our kids are the guinea pigs.

It's interesting to me that some people think that anyone who thinks there are good points to 2.0 math is "dumber than dumb". Let me guess, you are a lawyer who thinks you know better than anyone, including people who are in STEM.

So vomit away, but make sure you drink lots of water.

2.0 is MPCS's curriculum to meet Common Core standards. CC standards for math seeks to push critical thinking and reasoning rather than just rote memorization. How 2.0 math achieves these standards has been very controversial, well, so has CC in general. Personally, I think some of the push for critical thinking and reasoning in math is good. Some of the ways it's been executed is bad, but this seems to be school and/or teacher specific as well.

Just threw up……

OP this is the PR bull shit that MCPS and a few dumber than dumb parents who just parrot whatever MCPS says will tell you. 2.0 math is a disaster. Your child is probably struggling because its a mixed up shit bag of stupidity. Its terribly confusing for kids that aren't super math oriented because it presents math in no logical order repeats very easy problems over and over again but expects the students to go through very unintuitive, cumbersome, and illogical processes for that type of problem. The kids must follow the teacher step by step and remember all the ridiculous steps because their are either no instructions on the homework sheet or very vague ones.

OP for second grade you could try a math after school activity, Mathnasium or even Kumon. MCPS types love to bash Kumon but for kids who struggle having a strong foundation in the basics and understanding the relationship between those equations is very helpful.

60-85 is a good range for an experienced tutor

It is also hard to teach something you totally understand. You don't get why the other person doesn't get it when you have clearly explained it. I was an early reader. I never remember not understanding how to combine letters and sounds. My son struggled. Nothing I did helped. Tutoring by a spec ed teacher helped and was priceless.

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Anonymous wrote:How dumb do you have to be as parents that you can not tutor your own kid in math? $50-80/hr to teach a 7-8yr old? Wow!

As a teacher and tutor with a master's, I resent this. You should not assume you know how to teach a student who is not grasping the subject. Also, some kids are so resistant to their parents helping them.
P.s. I charge $65 for tutoring, more if I go to the students home.

Of course you resent it. You charge $65+ for parents who can't help their 7yr olds with basic math skills. Kudos

New poster. OK, I admit it - I can't help my 2nd grader with math. I am trying to explain to her, but she doesn't seem to get it. We are considering a tutor. And before you accuse me of being dumb, I got no less than an A- in my multivariable calculus and differential equations classes in college (Ivy League), and have a MS in financial engineering. "If you can't explain it, you don't get it" was never true for me, I was always struggling to expain to others even if it made complete sense to me. I guess I couldn't be a teacher.

MCPS special education teacher who does a limited amount of tutoring. I charge 60-70 dollars an hour. I also hired a tutor for my DD and paid a similar amount. It was worth it because the dynamic with my child is very different than with a tutor. I paid a high price to have someone that not only had access to the curriculum but also was an expert on how students learn and where students get "stuck". Worth every penny. The parents of the children I tutored felt the same way.

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Anonymous wrote:How dumb do you have to be as parents that you can not tutor your own kid in math? $50-80/hr to teach a 7-8yr old? Wow!

As a teacher and tutor with a master's, I resent this. You should not assume you know how to teach a student who is not grasping the subject. Also, some kids are so resistant to their parents helping them.
P.s. I charge $65 for tutoring, more if I go to the students home.

Of course you resent it. You charge $65+ for parents who can't help their 7yr olds with basic math skills. Kudos

Anonymous wrote:How dumb do you have to be as parents that you can not tutor your own kid in math? $50-80/hr to teach a 7-8yr old? Wow!

As a teacher and tutor with a master's, I resent this. You should not assume you know how to teach a student who is not grasping the subject. Also, some kids are so resistant to their parents helping them.
P.s. I charge $65 for tutoring, more if I go to the students home.

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Anonymous wrote:how much help are you looking for? RM has a tutoring club - GenerationZ, free of charge, once a week I think. You may want to check it out.

Is this for math? If OP's kid is in 2nd grade, then DC is doing 2.0 math. I'm not sure a HSer can help with 2.0 math. Some parents seem to be having a hard time helping their kids with 2.0 math. A HSer may be better at 2.0 math than a parent, but not sure they would be the best person to help with 2.0 math. Maybe ask an MCPS teacher. I think some teachers do tutor outside of school.

What's so special about 2.0 math? math is math, no?

I guess you don't have an ES kid in 2.0 math or have not read the numerous threads on 2.0 ES math.

2.0 math is math, but the way it is taught is very different than how the current HSers or the parents generation were taught. Some of it is the same, but I'm guessing the math that OP's kid is having issues with is the different ways math under 2.0 math is now being taught.

Yes, my kids are older - 1 HS, 1 college, and 1 in grad school. Sometimes I feel like the education "experts" focus on fixing things that are not broken and the real issues are... well, stay broken.

For some, it wasn't broken, but for too many, the system was broken.

2.0 is MPCS's curriculum to meet Common Core standards. CC standards for math seeks to push critical thinking and reasoning rather than just rote memorization. How 2.0 math achieves these standards has been very controversial, well, so has CC in general. Personally, I think some of the push for critical thinking and reasoning in math is good. Some of the ways it's been executed is bad, but this seems to be school and/or teacher specific as well.

I charge $75/hr.

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Anonymous wrote:how much help are you looking for? RM has a tutoring club - GenerationZ, free of charge, once a week I think. You may want to check it out.

Is this for math? If OP's kid is in 2nd grade, then DC is doing 2.0 math. I'm not sure a HSer can help with 2.0 math. Some parents seem to be having a hard time helping their kids with 2.0 math. A HSer may be better at 2.0 math than a parent, but not sure they would be the best person to help with 2.0 math. Maybe ask an MCPS teacher. I think some teachers do tutor outside of school.

What's so special about 2.0 math? math is math, no?

I guess you don't have an ES kid in 2.0 math or have not read the numerous threads on 2.0 ES math.

2.0 math is math, but the way it is taught is very different than how the current HSers or the parents generation were taught. Some of it is the same, but I'm guessing the math that OP's kid is having issues with is the different ways math under 2.0 math is now being taught.

Yes, my kids are older - 1 HS, 1 college, and 1 in grad school. Sometimes I feel like the education "experts" focus on fixing things that are not broken and the real issues are... well, stay broken.

$65.00-$75.00 an hour for an excellent tutor (for 5th grader). Totally worth it if the person does a good job.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how much help are you looking for? RM has a tutoring club - GenerationZ, free of charge, once a week I think. You may want to check it out.

Is this for math? If OP's kid is in 2nd grade, then DC is doing 2.0 math. I'm not sure a HSer can help with 2.0 math. Some parents seem to be having a hard time helping their kids with 2.0 math. A HSer may be better at 2.0 math than a parent, but not sure they would be the best person to help with 2.0 math. Maybe ask an MCPS teacher. I think some teachers do tutor outside of school.

What's so special about 2.0 math? math is math, no?

I guess you don't have an ES kid in 2.0 math or have not read the numerous threads on 2.0 ES math.

2.0 math is math, but the way it is taught is very different than how the current HSers or the parents generation were taught. Some of it is the same, but I'm guessing the math that OP's kid is having issues with is the different ways math under 2.0 math is now being taught.

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Anonymous wrote:how much help are you looking for? RM has a tutoring club - GenerationZ, free of charge, once a week I think. You may want to check it out.

Is this for math? If OP's kid is in 2nd grade, then DC is doing 2.0 math. I'm not sure a HSer can help with 2.0 math. Some parents seem to be having a hard time helping their kids with 2.0 math. A HSer may be better at 2.0 math than a parent, but not sure they would be the best person to help with 2.0 math. Maybe ask an MCPS teacher. I think some teachers do tutor outside of school.

What's so special about 2.0 math? math is math, no?

My DH, an MCPS teacher, tutors in the summer. $60/hour. Seems fair to me for a professional with 20+ years of experience.