Anonymous wrote:I am 21:49 and not the OP. I'm that person that will tell someone (constructively and in the right situations) to get over themselves. My career doesn't define me so I take no offense to honesty.

For those that see the OP as self-centered or dreadful, why not throw out more fruitful and constructive comments or suggestions?

Because s/he asked for our thoughts and that is the assessment from the information provided. And it wasn't an isolated opinion.

So you have a job in which you can leave for 6 months, and let others do your "job", and then come back and go on as if nothing happened? wow! sounds like you don't really do much.

I have NEVER had a job in which I could leave for 6 months and then come back and it would still be there.

I am 21:49 and not the OP. I'm that person that will tell someone (constructively and in the right situations) to get over themselves. My career doesn't define me so I take no offense to honesty.

For those that see the OP as self-centered or dreadful, why not throw out more fruitful and constructive comments or suggestions?

OP, don't be surprised when your job isnt waiting for you after this detail. You sound dreadful to work with and I'm sure everyone is counting down the days til you leave.

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OP - If I were your supervisor and you said "that" to me, you won't be coming back to work for me. Not as a team lead anyway. You can disagree all you want but at the end of the day, it's not your call. A lot of times organizations allow details hoping the that person find a home elsewhere. It's pretty well known/accepted way to get rid of non-worker or problem makers. Hope you are not one of them.

If you can't handle someone telling you you're not that important, you should have a reality check. Unless you're saving a life, teaching youth, military and so on, there's no real difference being made in this life by a hedge fund manager or web developer. No offense to those in the professions I mentioned. I'm in a 'frivolous' career and am very aware of it. It takes care of my family though!

Keep telling your bosses that they are not that important. I'm sure that will do wonders for your career. Perhaps you are the one in need of a reality check.

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OP - If I were your supervisor and you said "that" to me, you won't be coming back to work for me. Not as a team lead anyway. You can disagree all you want but at the end of the day, it's not your call. A lot of times organizations allow details hoping the that person find a home elsewhere. It's pretty well known/accepted way to get rid of non-worker or problem makers. Hope you are not one of them.

If you can't handle someone telling you you're not that important, you should have a reality check. Unless you're saving a life, teaching youth, military and so on, there's no real difference being made in this life by a hedge fund manager or web developer. No offense to those in the professions I mentioned. I'm in a 'frivolous' career and am very aware of it. It takes care of my family though!

Without knowing more I would recommend finding a new job...looks like OP has already come to that decision. I've had a similar situation with immature co-workers who were disgruntled in their career and felt the organization owed them promotions and awards. Those people are still around (govie office) and live an awful existence. I lost all empathy for them long ago. OP should try to make a difference in the areas he/she can, but otherwise- concentrate on getting out.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, the message I get from your post is that you are overly-concerned with your own status and whether or not the position will be yours when you come back. It will. In fact, your position is much more secure if it cannot remain vacant and needs someone filling that leadership role while you are gone. If the responsibilities can just be absorbed by everyone else, that makes your position unnecessary.

OP here-- I have to disagree. Any job can be absorbed by a group of people. No one is so important that if they drop dead tomorrow, the department would not function. In every job I've had, we've had vacancies that were filled by others who stepped up (reluctantly or volunteered). Doesn't mean the job was done well or completed, but I don't know of any run of the mill positions that can't be solved by piece milling tasks.

OP - If I were your supervisor and you said "that" to me, you won't be coming back to work for me. Not as a team lead anyway. You can disagree all you want but at the end of the day, it's not your call. A lot of times organizations allow details hoping the that person find a home elsewhere. It's pretty well known/accepted way to get rid of non-worker or problem makers. Hope you are not one of them.

You sound self-centered and entitled. You also don't appear to have any leadership skills. Everyone has challenges leading groups, but part of leadership is developing your group, upward, downward and laterally. You don't care to develop your group and seem to relish bad mouthing everyone while making yourself look good. Eventually people will catch on and you will have trouble getting anything done. Your disdain for others will be a severe limiting factor in your career unless you take steps to correct it. Maybe this behavior was learned through a series of roles in dysfunctional orgs, but it won't fly when you are in high performance situations.

My office has two layers of poor people managers so if anyone goes on maternity or detail leave it seems like a big land grab for their work. It's pstheic, I'm the only one who abide ny the coverage model and I'm going to start the eat what you take/kill model myself if I didn't have three kids to take care of!

Sounds risky to be out of the office, in ops case. I understand that concern. It's not you being insecure, it's a poorly run group, people upset about the promotion process (same everywhere,mand is political often).

However, you seem to have a strong opinion about the quality of your coworkers work. If it's that bad, point it out gently as one of the reasons you want your role temporarily spread out while on detail. Keep stressing the word temporarily all the time.

Anonymous wrote:Also, the message I get from your post is that you are overly-concerned with your own status and whether or not the position will be yours when you come back. It will. In fact, your position is much more secure if it cannot remain vacant and needs someone filling that leadership role while you are gone. If the responsibilities can just be absorbed by everyone else, that makes your position unnecessary.

OP here-- I have to disagree. Any job can be absorbed by a group of people. No one is so important that if they drop dead tomorrow, the department would not function. In every job I've had, we've had vacancies that were filled by others who stepped up (reluctantly or volunteered). Doesn't mean the job was done well or completed, but I don't know of any run of the mill positions that can't be solved by piece milling tasks.