Anonymous
10/04/2014 15:31
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Correct..but a PP stated that the make up for the HGC should mirror the county make up so that advocates changing that.
No, I don't see any PPs advocating that the county should admit people to the HGC based on race.
Advocating a certain percentage for each group would be admitting based on race since the different groups (on average) score very differently on these types of tests.
Yes, it would be. Nobody said that, though.
Read the previous posts; someone explicitly called for the magnet demographics to mirror the demographics of MCPS at large.
No. Somebody said, "Minorities need more help than whites/Asians. HCG should reflect general population of MCPS - 30% white, 30 Asian, 30 AA, and 10% Hispanics. "
And, in fact, I agree with the PP that the HGCs should reflect the general population of MCPS (which was actually 32% white, 27% Hispanic, 21% black/African-American, and 14% Asian, last year). There are lots of ways to try to reach that goal. Why do you assume that the only way to reach that goal is admitting based on race?
Anonymous
10/04/2014 15:25
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Correct..but a PP stated that the make up for the HGC should mirror the county make up so that advocates changing that.
No, I don't see any PPs advocating that the county should admit people to the HGC based on race.
Advocating a certain percentage for each group would be admitting based on race since the different groups (on average) score very differently on these types of tests.
Yes, it would be. Nobody said that, though.
Read the previous posts; someone explicitly called for the magnet demographics to mirror the demographics of MCPS at large.
Anonymous
10/04/2014 15:24
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Minorities need more help than whites/Asians. HCG should reflect general population of MCPS - 30% white, 30 Asian, 30 AA, and 10% Hispanics.
..This post implies (to me) that MCPS should use race as a factor in admissions.
It shouldn't but I think that's exactly where MCPS is going. Even for the magnet programs. Sad.
No, MCPS is not. It is against the law. Google Eisenberg v. Montgomery County Public Schools. Please educate yourself.
have you heard "holistic" admission policy?
Does MCPS have a holistic admission policy?
Are you saying that MCPS is breaking the law?
Anonymous
10/04/2014 15:17
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Minorities need more help than whites/Asians. HCG should reflect general population of MCPS - 30% white, 30 Asian, 30 AA, and 10% Hispanics.
..This post implies (to me) that MCPS should use race as a factor in admissions.
It shouldn't but I think that's exactly where MCPS is going. Even for the magnet programs. Sad.
No, MCPS is not. It is against the law. Google Eisenberg v. Montgomery County Public Schools. Please educate yourself.
have you heard "holistic" admission policy?
Anonymous
10/04/2014 15:13
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Minorities need more help than whites/Asians. HCG should reflect general population of MCPS - 30% white, 30 Asian, 30 AA, and 10% Hispanics.
..This post implies (to me) that MCPS should use race as a factor in admissions.
It shouldn't but I think that's exactly where MCPS is going. Even for the magnet programs. Sad.
No, MCPS is not. It is against the law. Google Eisenberg v. Montgomery County Public Schools. Please educate yourself.
Anonymous
10/04/2014 15:10
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Correct..but a PP stated that the make up for the HGC should mirror the county make up so that advocates changing that.
No, I don't see any PPs advocating that the county should admit people to the HGC based on race.
Advocating a certain percentage for each group would be admitting based on race since the different groups (on average) score very differently on these types of tests.
Yes, it would be. Nobody said that, though.
Anonymous
10/04/2014 14:41
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:Minorities need more help than whites/Asians. HCG should reflect general population of MCPS - 30% white, 30 Asian, 30 AA, and 10% Hispanics.
..This post implies (to me) that MCPS should use race as a factor in admissions.
It shouldn't but I think that's exactly where MCPS is going. Even for the magnet programs. Sad.
Anonymous
10/04/2014 14:07
Subject: Re:Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:Crap. There are many whites that score poorly on these exams...much more so than the number of blacks. On the other hand, those for high SES (regardless of the race or ethnic group) tend to score higher on these tests than those form low SES. The group distinction here is based on SES, zip code, better schools, better teachers, $$$ for tutors and $$$ for prep testing.
Really? Great! Clearly affirmative action based on race is now unnecessary and we should only look at parental income since that's the determining factor right?
Anonymous
10/04/2014 14:07
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Minorities need more help than whites/Asians. HCG should reflect general population of MCPS - 30% white, 30 Asian, 30 AA, and 10% Hispanics.
..This post implies (to me) that MCPS should use race as a factor in admissions.
..This post implies (to me) that MCPS should use race as a factor in admissions.
Anonymous
10/04/2014 13:54
Subject: Re:Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Crap. There are many whites that score poorly on these exams...much more so than the number of blacks. On the other hand, those for high SES (regardless of the race or ethnic group) tend to score higher on these tests than those form low SES. The group distinction here is based on SES, zip code, better schools, better teachers, $$$ for tutors and $$$ for prep testing.
Anonymous
10/04/2014 13:14
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Correct..but a PP stated that the make up for the HGC should mirror the county make up so that advocates changing that.
No, I don't see any PPs advocating that the county should admit people to the HGC based on race.
Advocating a certain percentage for each group would be admitting based on race since the different groups (on average) score very differently on these types of tests.
Anonymous
10/04/2014 12:39
Subject: Re:Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:Many people know about HGC and magnets and do not even want to apply based on their own reasons. Many a times there kids are very bright but they are not interested because they do not know all the facts.
I understand why the teachers gave the minority students letters, it is because they are underrepresented. I understand why OP is annoyed, it is because it is creating a rift in the classroom since this act is seen as preferential.
If I was a teacher - I would give these letters to ALL the students in the classroom and then I would phone these 2 parents and also reinforce the benefits of HGC for their kids to them. I think this would be more effective and less preferential, more politically correct too.
Sneakier, anyway.
Anonymous
10/04/2014 12:37
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:Correct..but a PP stated that the make up for the HGC should mirror the county make up so that advocates changing that.
No, I don't see any PPs advocating that the county should admit people to the HGC based on race.
Anonymous
10/04/2014 12:30
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Correct..but a PP stated that the make up for the HGC should mirror the county make up so that advocates changing that.
Anonymous
10/04/2014 12:06
Subject: Letters sent to minority ES student encouraging them to apply to MS HCG
Anonymous wrote:HGC should represent the general population of the gifted population of MCPS. If fewer gifted minorities are applying than MCPS should work on encouraging them. If they take race into account more than ability to have a gifted center is diminished.
Good news! MCPS does not take race into account for application to magnet programs.