Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 17:54     Subject: Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:Who want's anyone - male or female - without a job?


This.

I can imagine someone retired or independently wealthy, but just unemployed? HFN!
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 17:36     Subject: Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who want's anyone - male or female - without a job?


If that's the case, then there wouldn't be a 30+ point gap between the sexes on that question.


Most women without jobs fall into the SAHM role once kids come along, so even without employment, such women contribute to the household. Fewer unemployed men follow that path. Therefore, women - moreso than men - are concerned about the possibility of being attached to a spouse who won't work outside or inside the home and contributes little or nothing to the household. That's why you see the difference between the sexes.


I think women are, by and large, more focused on material things than men are. More concerned with having as nice a house as someone else. More concerned with having the latest clothes. More concerned with social status. Not all, certainly. And a non-trivial number of men are superficial twits. But, I'd say a 30 percent gap in this area is about right.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 16:45     Subject: Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who want's anyone - male or female - without a job?


If that's the case, then there wouldn't be a 30+ point gap between the sexes on that question.


Most women without jobs fall into the SAHM role once kids come along, so even without employment, such women contribute to the household. Fewer unemployed men follow that path. Therefore, women - moreso than men - are concerned about the possibility of being attached to a spouse who won't work outside or inside the home and contributes little or nothing to the household. That's why you see the difference between the sexes.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 16:38     Subject: Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of this garbage. Women are FINALLY gaining parity in this world, and now men are complaining. Too bad. White men are now getting their chance to experience what women and non-whites have experienced for 99.99% of human history - the absence of preferential treatment.

Here's my advice to men - go to school, study hard, work hard, get ahead. As a woman, it's what I had to do. No one handed me anything, and no one is going to hand you anything either. You'll have to succeed or fail on your own merits like everyone else.


I don't follow. How is it parity for women or preferential treatment for men if women are much less willing to marry a man based on his status as not employed?


The point is that there's a whole movement of white men bitching and whining about how they are so put upon these days when in reality, they are just waking up to the realization that they will now have to get an education, a job and a mate based on their own merits and that women are not going to fall at their feet because they have no better options. We have all the options we want now, and we don't have to settle for you. Deal with it.


I come from a long line of white men, am surrounded by white men, and know dozens and dozens of white men and I've never heard of this movement, nor heard of them bitch about how they are put upon. Sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 16:31     Subject: Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of this garbage. Women are FINALLY gaining parity in this world, and now men are complaining. Too bad. White men are now getting their chance to experience what women and non-whites have experienced for 99.99% of human history - the absence of preferential treatment.

Here's my advice to men - go to school, study hard, work hard, get ahead. As a woman, it's what I had to do. No one handed me anything, and no one is going to hand you anything either. You'll have to succeed or fail on your own merits like everyone else.


I don't follow. How is it parity for women or preferential treatment for men if women are much less willing to marry a man based on his status as not employed?


The point is that there's a whole movement of white men bitching and whining about how they are so put upon these days when in reality, they are just waking up to the realization that they will now have to get an education, a job and a mate based on their own merits and that women are not going to fall at their feet because they have no better options. We have all the options we want now, and we don't have to settle for you. Deal with it.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 16:26     Subject: Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of this garbage. Women are FINALLY gaining parity in this world, and now men are complaining. Too bad. White men are now getting their chance to experience what women and non-whites have experienced for 99.99% of human history - the absence of preferential treatment.

Here's my advice to men - go to school, study hard, work hard, get ahead. As a woman, it's what I had to do. No one handed me anything, and no one is going to hand you anything either. You'll have to succeed or fail on your own merits like everyone else.


I don't follow. How is it parity for women or preferential treatment for men if women are much less willing to marry a man based on his status as not employed?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 14:57     Subject: Re:Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:
this is why we don't have kids yet. I don't want to feel lesser because I'd have to take 12 weeks unpaid leave for a baby and he doesn't have to. It seems unfair, like I'm valued less


Oh sweetie, watch out for this. If your husband, and you are this inflexible ~ a family is about love, not competition


+1
Holy crap, this is rigid thinking at its worst. How "bad" does it have to be to not be "lesser"- are chemo patients out of the workforce for a bit exempt or is their respect down a notch too.

Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 14:36     Subject: Re:Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:As a woman Id take a woman with a job over a man without a job.......

She doesn't have to have a job, if she can cook and clean my house in heels!
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 14:35     Subject: Re:Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:As a woman Id take a woman with a job over a man without a job.......

+1
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 14:32     Subject: Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:It's not something we say in polite conversation, but my DH is 100% NOT okay with women not working. He doesn't respect them. He has said numerous times that he wouldn't have married someone who didn't want to work.

Which is all well and fine because we both work and contribute and feel equal in our relationship, but this is why we don't have kids yet. I don't want to feel lesser because I'd have to take 12 weeks unpaid leave for a baby and he doesn't have to. It seems unfair, like I'm valued less


I followed you until you came up with this gibberish.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 14:00     Subject: Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:It's not something we say in polite conversation, but my DH is 100% NOT okay with women not working. He doesn't respect them. He has said numerous times that he wouldn't have married someone who didn't want to work.

Which is all well and fine because we both work and contribute and feel equal in our relationship, but this is why we don't have kids yet. I don't want to feel lesser because I'd have to take 12 weeks unpaid leave for a baby and he doesn't have to. It seems unfair, like I'm valued less


Well, since he can't physically have the baby, that's how it goes. Married couples find a way to jointly plan for the financial impact.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 13:58     Subject: Re:Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a woman Id take a woman with a job over a man without a job.......


+1!

We don't want no scrubs.


Jinx!! You beat me to it.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 13:58     Subject: Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:It's not something we say in polite conversation, but my DH is 100% NOT okay with women not working. He doesn't respect them. He has said numerous times that he wouldn't have married someone who didn't want to work.

Which is all well and fine because we both work and contribute and feel equal in our relationship, but this is why we don't have kids yet. I don't want to feel lesser because I'd have to take 12 weeks unpaid leave for a baby and he doesn't have to. It seems unfair, like I'm valued less


Why are you even considering kids?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 13:58     Subject: Women want men with a job
Anonymous wrote:Has nothin to do with feminism. If a single man or woman isn't working, there is a problem. I bet the women surveyed are all working....it only stands to reason they want employed people to date.


BINGO! Smart, educated and well-employed women want smart, educated and well-employed men. I don't give a hot damn if you're making a ton of money as long as you are intelligent and making a productive contribution in the world. As the old song goes, I don't want no scrubs.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2014 13:56     Subject: Women want men with a job
I am so sick of this garbage. Women are FINALLY gaining parity in this world, and now men are complaining. Too bad. White men are now getting their chance to experience what women and non-whites have experienced for 99.99% of human history - the absence of preferential treatment.

Here's my advice to men - go to school, study hard, work hard, get ahead. As a woman, it's what I had to do. No one handed me anything, and no one is going to hand you anything either. You'll have to succeed or fail on your own merits like everyone else.