Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:59     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The evidence they have against him is circumstantial. There is no camera footage of her getting in the car with him. It doesn't take a lot to meet the probable cause evidence test to be able to charge someone. They charged him with that so that they would be able to arrest him and then have him held without bond. The reckless driving charges would not have been enough to keep him held with no bond.

I hope all the people who are assuming he is guilty have to come face to face with the justice system one day and then suddenly remember that in this country we are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, and not the other way around.


True, but his ACTIONS lead many to believe that he is guilty of something. Why run if you have nothing to hide?


Luckily for everyone, ACTIONS that do not fit some sort of pre-determined acceptable social behavior are not proof of guilt. The same thing could be said for people who confess to crimes they didn't commit. "If he didn't do it, then why did he say he did?". Stress and anxiety have different effects on people. Some people become very rational under pressure, but others crack and the fight or flight response takes over. He fled.


unfortunately some of those people (innocent people) have been tried and found guilty and either spent years in prison or were executed. its happens. i'm not saying either way whether Matthew is guilty or not - I have no idea what evidence the police have. just making a comment on our judicial system that does at times get it wrong.


This is true. Today, with better forensic testing (particularly DNA), this happens less frequently, thankfully. It still happens, but not at all to the degree it happened 20 years ago.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:59     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Innocent people don't run from the police during an attempted traffic stop and then disappear. He is guilty of something. If nothing else, resisting arrest.


But if he's black he knows that the scales of justice will never tip in his favor.


this has been going on in the other thread for a week. so it's acceptable for him to run, rather than being a standup guy and telling what he knows? his actions make him look guilty, not his skin color.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:58     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

It does not look good because this is a suspect with a long rap sheet and number of accusations of sexual assault crimes.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:56     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The evidence they have against him is circumstantial. There is no camera footage of her getting in the car with him. It doesn't take a lot to meet the probable cause evidence test to be able to charge someone. They charged him with that so that they would be able to arrest him and then have him held without bond. The reckless driving charges would not have been enough to keep him held with no bond.

I hope all the people who are assuming he is guilty have to come face to face with the justice system one day and then suddenly remember that in this country we are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, and not the other way around.


True, but his ACTIONS lead many to believe that he is guilty of something. Why run if you have nothing to hide?


Luckily for everyone, ACTIONS that do not fit some sort of pre-determined acceptable social behavior are not proof of guilt. The same thing could be said for people who confess to crimes they didn't commit. "If he didn't do it, then why did he say he did?". Stress and anxiety have different effects on people. Some people become very rational under pressure, but others crack and the fight or flight response takes over. He fled.


unfortunately some of those people (innocent people) have been tried and found guilty and either spent years in prison or were executed. its happens. i'm not saying either way whether Matthew is guilty or not - I have no idea what evidence the police have. just making a comment on our judicial system that does at times get it wrong.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:55     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:The evidence they have against him is circumstantial. There is no camera footage of her getting in the car with him. It doesn't take a lot to meet the probable cause evidence test to be able to charge someone. They charged him with that so that they would be able to arrest him and then have him held without bond. The reckless driving charges would not have been enough to keep him held with no bond.

I hope all the people who are assuming he is guilty have to come face to face with the justice system one day and then suddenly remember that in this country we are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, and not the other way around.


Right, that is the legal standard -- people are free to have whatever opinions they chose.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:52     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The evidence they have against him is circumstantial. There is no camera footage of her getting in the car with him. It doesn't take a lot to meet the probable cause evidence test to be able to charge someone. They charged him with that so that they would be able to arrest him and then have him held without bond. The reckless driving charges would not have been enough to keep him held with no bond.

I hope all the people who are assuming he is guilty have to come face to face with the justice system one day and then suddenly remember that in this country we are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, and not the other way around.


True, but his ACTIONS lead many to believe that he is guilty of something. Why run if you have nothing to hide?


Luckily for everyone, ACTIONS that do not fit some sort of pre-determined acceptable social behavior are not proof of guilt. The same thing could be said for people who confess to crimes they didn't commit. "If he didn't do it, then why did he say he did?". Stress and anxiety have different effects on people. Some people become very rational under pressure, but others crack and the fight or flight response takes over. He fled.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:49     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

I have no idea what happened and will not pretend to.

But you know how these cases go...once an arrest has been made it does not look good.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:48     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:Innocent people don't run from the police during an attempted traffic stop and then disappear. He is guilty of something. If nothing else, resisting arrest.


You're literally making things up. The police were tailing him because they were doing surveillance on him this was after he had gone to the police station. They did not try to stop him, they saw him speeding in a reckless manner and then issued an arrest warrant for reckless driving charges. Notice the lack of evading officers or resisting arrest charges? It's cause he did neither.

If I was a black man who was the last person to be seen on camera with a white girl who had been missing for a week, even if I was completely innocent I would also probably run away. If most people are like you and simply skim news articles and gather their own facts form them, the scales of justice have already tipped against him.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:47     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:The evidence they have against him is circumstantial. There is no camera footage of her getting in the car with him. It doesn't take a lot to meet the probable cause evidence test to be able to charge someone. They charged him with that so that they would be able to arrest him and then have him held without bond. The reckless driving charges would not have been enough to keep him held with no bond.

I hope all the people who are assuming he is guilty have to come face to face with the justice system one day and then suddenly remember that in this country we are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, and not the other way around.


True, but his ACTIONS lead many to believe that he is guilty of something. Why run if you have nothing to hide?
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:43     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

The evidence they have against him is circumstantial. There is no camera footage of her getting in the car with him. It doesn't take a lot to meet the probable cause evidence test to be able to charge someone. They charged him with that so that they would be able to arrest him and then have him held without bond. The reckless driving charges would not have been enough to keep him held with no bond.

I hope all the people who are assuming he is guilty have to come face to face with the justice system one day and then suddenly remember that in this country we are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, and not the other way around.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:25     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:I admit my heart sank when I saw that the suspect was black. Just what the black community needs to perpetuate the stereotype. It's especially unfortunate because in that part of Virginia, racism is already so strong.


Really? My heart sank when a young woman disappeared in a college town. Priorities.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:24     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:Innocent people don't run from the police during an attempted traffic stop and then disappear. He is guilty of something. If nothing else, resisting arrest.


But if he's black he knows that the scales of justice will never tip in his favor.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:23     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

I am surprised it was a black guy. Totally expected it to be some white frat boy. ( and I am a white woman btw)
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:22     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

He was also expelled from liberty for rape allegations.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 08:19     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Innocent people don't run from the police during an attempted traffic stop and then disappear. He is guilty of something. If nothing else, resisting arrest.