Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 10:21     Subject: Re:At what point is URM status finally determined?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Right, because this would be a really good lesson to teach your kids. Maybe the last thing they learn from you before they're off on their and making all their own decisions.


Huh? What's wrong with answering a question honestly?

Wut? For 17 years OP checks the "Caucasian/white" box. So were they being honest then or being honest now?
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 10:10     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A DNA test is the easiest way to prove some Native American ancestry, which is all you need.


Ancestry but not tribal affiliation.


Correct. The application asks for ethnicity, not tribal affiliation. Native American is an option.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 10:05     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
Anonymous wrote:A DNA test is the easiest way to prove some Native American ancestry, which is all you need.


Ancestry but not tribal affiliation.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 10:04     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
A DNA test is the easiest way to prove some Native American ancestry, which is all you need.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 10:03     Subject: Re:At what point is URM status finally determined?
Anonymous wrote:Right, because this would be a really good lesson to teach your kids. Maybe the last thing they learn from you before they're off on their and making all their own decisions.


Huh? What's wrong with answering a question honestly?

If the question was "are you a card carrying member of a Native American tribe?" the honest answer is No. But one's ethnicity is not determined by some government issued card (in this country at least).
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 09:57     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
At minimum the SAT box should have been checked. Your DC's SAT history follows them so if you missed checking it - I'd call College Board and say it as an "error". Have it corrected. Don't go into a lot of story.

Meanwhile if DC hasn't taken the ACT - fill out the box you want w/the ACT. DC could just send those results instead.

Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 09:54     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here - my husband's family has Native American hertigage.


OP Proving this is quite complex. In addition to proving this by DNA (required) you must also prove that you participate in the Indian nation culture. That takes some time and effort.


The Cherokee require that you can document your family history back to an enrolled Cherokee listed on the Dawes rolls (1898-1914). I had to provide them with my birth certificate listing my mother, her birth certificate listing her father, and his birth certificate listing his father, who was listed on the Dawes rolls. No DNA test required--how would anyone even do this? The Cherokee don't require you to "participate in the Indian national culture" to be enrolled, it is a genealogical issue.

Did URM status garner your acceptance to a college you otherwise would likely not have gotten into?


I did this as an adult, after college, but that is a pretty annoying question, right? I got into my highly competitive school without disclosing it, but if I had, then people would always feel free to doubt whether I had gotten in on merit.

Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 09:53     Subject: Re:At what point is URM status finally determined?
Right, because this would be a really good lesson to teach your kids. Maybe the last thing they learn from you before they're off on their and making all their own decisions.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 09:49     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here - my husband's family has Native American heritage.


OP Proving this is quite complex. In addition to proving this by DNA (required) you must also prove that you participate in the Indian nation culture. That takes some time and effort.


But colleges don't ask for proof. The fact that you COULD prove it is enough - you don't have to go through the bureaucratic process laid out by the tribes to check the box. If you can honestly say that you qualify, check the box. No school will challenge it because if they did and you proved that you qualified they would be incredibly embarrassed. Schools no better than to get into the area of questioning someone's self identification.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 09:41     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here - my husband's family has Native American hertigage.


OP Proving this is quite complex. In addition to proving this by DNA (required) you must also prove that you participate in the Indian nation culture. That takes some time and effort.


The Cherokee require that you can document your family history back to an enrolled Cherokee listed on the Dawes rolls (1898-1914). I had to provide them with my birth certificate listing my mother, her birth certificate listing her father, and his birth certificate listing his father, who was listed on the Dawes rolls. No DNA test required--how would anyone even do this? The Cherokee don't require you to "participate in the Indian national culture" to be enrolled, it is a genealogical issue.

Did URM status garner your acceptance to a college you otherwise would likely not have gotten into?
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 09:38     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here - my husband's family has Native American hertigage.


OP Proving this is quite complex. In addition to proving this by DNA (required) you must also prove that you participate in the Indian nation culture. That takes some time and effort.


The Cherokee require that you can document your family history back to an enrolled Cherokee listed on the Dawes rolls (1898-1914). I had to provide them with my birth certificate listing my mother, her birth certificate listing her father, and his birth certificate listing his father, who was listed on the Dawes rolls. No DNA test required--how would anyone even do this? The Cherokee don't require you to "participate in the Indian national culture" to be enrolled, it is a genealogical issue.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 09:36     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work in a position where I have to determine URM status, and American Indian/Native American is harder than most to claim, as you typically have to have tribal affiliation. Other URM categories use self-identification as the standard. The affiliation on the SAT scores won't matter, the college will use the information provided on the application.

So great when those in a position to know post.
+1


And so sad that we continue to think in these terms.

Which terms?
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 09:32     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
Anonymous wrote:OP here - my husband's family has Native American hertigage.


OP Proving this is quite complex. In addition to proving this by DNA (required) you must also prove that you participate in the Indian nation culture. That takes some time and effort.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 09:30     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
Anonymous wrote:Do they have tribal membership? If so, absolutely claim. If they don't qualify for tribal membership, I wouldn't do it.


I don't think actual tribal membership is as important as meeting the criteria for tribal membership.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2014 09:28     Subject: At what point is URM status finally determined?
This article has information on the blood quantum laws and requirements for tribal membership:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws#Tribes_requiring_1.2F32_degree_blood_quantum_for_membership