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Anonymous wrote:No birds, lizards, mice or fish. I just believe that animals prefer tthe wild. We don`t take our kids to zoos, sea world or circuses. We do take them to wildlife rehab facilities that offer tours. We own two dogs that can come and go if they wanted to, but choose to live with us. I wish everyone would do this. Please stop taking your kids to places that exploit wild animals for our enjoyment. Peace out sisters.

Do you let your dogs roam the neighborhood like strays? What do you mean the dogs "choose" to live with you? Do you provide food, clean water, shelter, training, vet care? Or do you let your dogs worry about that stuff?

no I let them roam the streets like the free beings they are. Just like my kids. They are free range too. If they don`t like our home they are free to leave as well. But, since I rock as a mom..they are more than happy to stay. My friends tell me that I am the best mom they have seen.

I once let our dog off the leash before entering our apartment building when I lived in the city because I wanted to prove he would go in willingly, and he took off down the street. Ungrateful bastard! Had to chase him down the sidewalk through a crowd of people.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you have clearly never seen my 75 gallon saltwater reef tank. Those fish could not be any happier. They are surrounded by beautiful coral and live rock. The water is kept at the perfect temperature and salinity. They are fed the highest quality food. And most importantly, nothing will ever try to eat them.

I understand where you are coming from. But there are humane ways to keep fish and other animals.

How long do your fish live? Do you place natural predators in with them to provide the adrenaline they need to survive? Is their food live and do the have to hunt for it? Essential things for a proper habitat.

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How long do my fish (and I assume you include starfish, crabs, shrimp, snails and other marine life) live? - Depends on the species and the health of the animal. We've had fish live for many years and others die in a few months. My clown fish has been alive for what seems like forever. Hippo Tangs are more susceptible to things like ich. They don't live as long because just like in the ocean, they are more easily stressed. Damsels are very hardy. Goby's, not so much because they won't compete for food. You have to know your system and you have to know what type of animal works with your environment and what won't. A chocolate chip starfish will devour soft choral. A spiny starfish won't. You can't put certain fish together. Others will happily school.

Do I place natural predators in with them? Yes and no. Yes there are predatory animals in my tank. Starfish will eat shrimp. However, because the animals are well fed, they really have no reason to eat their friends.

Is their food live and do they hunt? They eat a combination of food. Some of it appears live (frozen shrimp, for example). They have to "hunt" it because of the current action in the tank.

I'm not suggesting that I have perfectly created an ocean environment. But there are currents. We do have a wave maker. There is a ton of live rock. There are coral and bacteria blooms. Births and deaths. If I were a fish, I would much prefer to live in a beautiful, well-maintained tank. They are relatively safe from predators, including humans.

You've been watching too much Nemo.

Anonymous wrote:OP, you have clearly never seen my 75 gallon saltwater reef tank. Those fish could not be any happier. They are surrounded by beautiful coral and live rock. The water is kept at the perfect temperature and salinity. They are fed the highest quality food. And most importantly, nothing will ever try to eat them.

I understand where you are coming from. But there are humane ways to keep fish and other animals.

How long do your fish live? Do you place natural predators in with them to provide the adrenaline they need to survive? Is their food live and do the have to hunt for it? Essential things for a proper habitat.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No birds, lizards, mice or fish. I just believe that animals prefer tthe wild. We don`t take our kids to zoos, sea world or circuses. We do take them to wildlife rehab facilities that offer tours. We own two dogs that can come and go if they wanted to, but choose to live with us. I wish everyone would do this. Please stop taking your kids to places that exploit wild animals for our enjoyment. Peace out sisters.

Do you let your dogs roam the neighborhood like strays? What do you mean the dogs "choose" to live with you? Do you provide food, clean water, shelter, training, vet care? Or do you let your dogs worry about that stuff?

no I let them roam the streets like the free beings they are. Just like my kids. They are free range too. If they don`t like our home they are free to leave as well. But, since I rock as a mom..they are more than happy to stay. My friends tell me that I am the best mom they have seen.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you have clearly never seen my 75 gallon saltwater reef tank. Those fish could not be any happier. They are surrounded by beautiful coral and live rock. The water is kept at the perfect temperature and salinity. They are fed the highest quality food. And most importantly, nothing will ever try to eat them.

I understand where you are coming from. But there are humane ways to keep fish and other animals.

Word on the saltwater circuit is the food is dreck, salinity is just perfect enough to count as an ungodly annoyance, and you, op, need to keep your distance. Around 50 yards or so from the tank's perimeters. If that means you can't enter the room, so be it. Your fish are pretty serious. Like next-step-is-a-restraining-order serious. Anyway, don't kid yourself. They're hating life in a guilded tank.

testify sista!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you have clearly never seen my 75 gallon saltwater reef tank. Those fish could not be any happier. They are surrounded by beautiful coral and live rock. The water is kept at the perfect temperature and salinity. They are fed the highest quality food. And most importantly, nothing will ever try to eat them.

I understand where you are coming from. But there are humane ways to keep fish and other animals.

Word on the saltwater circuit is the food is dreck, salinity is just perfect enough to count as an ungodly annoyance, and you, op, need to keep your distance. Around 50 yards or so from the tank's perimeters. If that means you can't enter the room, so be it. Your fish are pretty serious. Like next-step-is-a-restraining-order serious. Anyway, don't kid yourself. They're hating life in a guilded tank.

Uh, what?

Anonymous wrote:OP, you have clearly never seen my 75 gallon saltwater reef tank. Those fish could not be any happier. They are surrounded by beautiful coral and live rock. The water is kept at the perfect temperature and salinity. They are fed the highest quality food. And most importantly, nothing will ever try to eat them.

I understand where you are coming from. But there are humane ways to keep fish and other animals.

Word on the saltwater circuit is the food is dreck, salinity is just perfect enough to count as an ungodly annoyance, and you, op, need to keep your distance. Around 50 yards or so from the tank's perimeters. If that means you can't enter the room, so be it. Your fish are pretty serious. Like next-step-is-a-restraining-order serious. Anyway, don't kid yourself. They're hating life in a guilded tank.

Anonymous wrote:No birds, lizards, mice or fish. I just believe that animals prefer tthe wild. We don`t take our kids to zoos, sea world or circuses. We do take them to wildlife rehab facilities that offer tours. We own two dogs that can come and go if they wanted to, but choose to live with us. I wish everyone would do this. Please stop taking your kids to places that exploit wild animals for our enjoyment. Peace out sisters.

Do you let your dogs roam the neighborhood like strays? What do you mean the dogs "choose" to live with you? Do you provide food, clean water, shelter, training, vet care? Or do you let your dogs worry about that stuff?

Anonymous wrote:No birds, lizards, mice or fish. I just believe that animals prefer tthe wild. We don`t take our kids to zoos, sea world or circuses. We do take them to wildlife rehab facilities that offer tours. We own two dogs that can come and go if they wanted to, but choose to live with us. I wish everyone would do this. Please stop taking your kids to places that exploit wild animals for our enjoyment. Peace out sisters.

I don't go to zoos because I always feel the real animals are on the outside of the cages.

I know why the caged bird sings.

I used to have a hamster who would curl up on my shoulder and watch t.v. with me, a budgie that had as much personality and loved people as much as any dog. I had guinea pigs that loved to be held and snuggled - they used to jump up and down when they saw me, soo cute.

They had darned good lives and were very much loved.

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Anonymous wrote:Hate zoos, sea world, and especially the circus. I had to leave sea world when I was a kid because I was crying so hard because all the animals were kept in captivity.

What did you think seaworld was going to be like?

Well I was 6 so I was just excited to see the animals. And then when I saw how small the tanks were, I had a meltdown.

this is how I felt about the zoo when I was a kid. It was so depressing. Zoos have come a long way, though. I'm sure the animals would rather be living wild but at least they're in fenced in areas, not in actual cages.

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Live and let live. You don't want to go to these places, that's fine. But don't tell me what to do.


shouldn`t the live and let live mantra apply to all of (insert diety of choice) creatures? Did you say that when Ted Bundy was out killing coeds? No, because it is morally wrong to murder just as it is to enslave wild animals.

Um, no. He was not letting live, now, was he?
You clearly have a screw loose.

OP, you have clearly never seen my 75 gallon saltwater reef tank. Those fish could not be any happier. They are surrounded by beautiful coral and live rock. The water is kept at the perfect temperature and salinity. They are fed the highest quality food. And most importantly, nothing will ever try to eat them.

I understand where you are coming from. But there are humane ways to keep fish and other animals.

Anonymous wrote:Live and let live. You don't want to go to these places, that's fine. But don't tell me what to do.

shouldn`t the live and let live mantra apply to all of (insert diety of choice) creatures? Did you say that when Ted Bundy was out killing coeds? No, because it is morally wrong to murder just as it is to enslave wild animals.