Anonymous
Post 09/11/2014 12:39     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
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Anonymous wrote:Is this DCUM or Islam 101, 201, etc?


It's Islam is Right and Christianity is Wrong 101. The moderator doesn't like it when you say she's trying to make converts, but I think it's pretty hard to miss.



Aahhhh, but when you were vilifying Islam, THAT was acceptable, right? Just giving you a taste of your own medicine, my dear.


Aaaahhhh, but YOU STARTED four threads on Islam. People on those threads were just responding to your misleading claims (unless you think they should have been stopped from responding to you). Now YOU started this thread trying to "debunk" (your word) Christianity. The difference is huge. Do you see the difference, sweetie?


Demand a refund on your college degree. Debunk trinity and divinity of Jesus. NOT the entire religion. If the entire religion were debunked, my own religion would be debunked too since they share common principles too.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2014 11:36     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
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Anonymous wrote:Is this DCUM or Islam 101, 201, etc?


It's Islam is Right and Christianity is Wrong 101. The moderator doesn't like it when you say she's trying to make converts, but I think it's pretty hard to miss.



Aahhhh, but when you were vilifying Islam, THAT was acceptable, right? Just giving you a taste of your own medicine, my dear.


Aaaahhhh, but YOU STARTED four threads on Islam. People on those threads were just responding to your misleading claims (unless you think they should have been stopped from responding to you). Now YOU started this thread trying to "debunk" (your word) Christianity. The difference is huge. Do you see the difference, sweetie?
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2014 11:27     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
Anonymous wrote:Jirks didn't locate anything new. These debates have been going on among Christians themselves since early Christianity. Not everybody accepts the early church fathers' decisions.

The fact that I'm Christian and not Muslim has nothing to do with the trinity. It has everything to do with true Christianity's positions on women and arcane worship, and so many other things. I particularly admire Christianity's non-judgemental stance towards others and the command to love your enemy. I think the last two are particularly important in today's interconnected world. I say these things only because OP seems to think that "debunking" the trinity and Christ's divinity is somehow going to convince us to leave Christianity for Islam. It's not.


Lets start a thread on whether Christianity truly says love thy enemy. 4 billion nonMuslims will burn in hell because they don't accept that Jesus is God. Some love.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2014 11:25     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
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Anonymous wrote:Is this DCUM or Islam 101, 201, etc?


It's Islam is Right and Christianity is Wrong 101. The moderator doesn't like it when you say she's trying to make converts, but I think it's pretty hard to miss.



Aahhhh, but when you were vilifying Islam, THAT was acceptable, right? Just giving you a taste of your own medicine, my dear.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2014 11:17     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
Jirks didn't locate anything new. These debates have been going on among Christians themselves since early Christianity. Not everybody accepts the early church fathers' decisions.

The fact that I'm Christian and not Muslim has nothing to do with the trinity. It has everything to do with true Christianity's positions on women and arcane worship, and so many other things. I particularly admire Christianity's non-judgemental stance towards others and the command to love your enemy. I think the last two are particularly important in today's interconnected world. I say these things only because OP seems to think that "debunking" the trinity and Christ's divinity is somehow going to convince us to leave Christianity for Islam. It's not.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2014 11:03     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
Anonymous wrote:Is this DCUM or Islam 101, 201, etc?


It's Islam is Right and Christianity is Wrong 101. The moderator doesn't like it when you say she's trying to make converts, but I think it's pretty hard to miss.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2014 10:52     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
Is this DCUM or Islam 101, 201, etc?
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2014 10:42     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
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Anonymous wrote:There's debate within Christianity about Jesus' divinity. All God, all man, or something in between?

Personally, I don't think I'll know the answer until the next life. I'm fine with that, and I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

I really like the guy's message, and I wouldn't want to be anything else.


do you really think you're going to get an explanation of Jesus divinity after you die?

Can't you just like the guy's message without believing he's "divine?"


I said I'm fine either way.


Google books by Dr. Jerald Dirks, former ordained Deacon, Harvard Divinity School graduate and professor. He debunked the whole trinity and divinity concept after locating and researching the world's oldest manuscripts even before the Bible was written.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2014 06:59     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
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Anonymous wrote:There's debate within Christianity about Jesus' divinity. All God, all man, or something in between?

Personally, I don't think I'll know the answer until the next life. I'm fine with that, and I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

I really like the guy's message, and I wouldn't want to be anything else.


do you really think you're going to get an explanation of Jesus divinity after you die?

Can't you just like the guy's message without believing he's "divine?"


I said I'm fine either way.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 23:47     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
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Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine why a non-Christian would believe in the holy trinity. That's among the defining characteristics of Christianity.


Yeah, it's a pretty pointless concept unless you are Christian. Non-Christians don't believe Jesus was divine, so why would they then need to move on to the trinity part?


even a lot of Christians don't get the trinity.

Three gods in one? who cares?

The holy ghost? what the hell is that?


Trinity came about after arguments over divinity of Jesus were settled. How to avoid ending up with two gods? Just say they're really one and the same, and throw in the HG for a freebee.


Yeah, that makes sense! Then teach it to small children, tell them they're go to hell for eternity if they don't believe it, and it will really stick -- long after people realize it doesn't make any sense at all.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 23:44     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
Anonymous wrote:There's debate within Christianity about Jesus' divinity. All God, all man, or something in between?

Personally, I don't think I'll know the answer until the next life. I'm fine with that, and I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

I really like the guy's message, and I wouldn't want to be anything else.


do you really think you're going to get an explanation of Jesus divinity after you die?

Can't you just like the guy's message without believing he's "divine?"
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 22:29     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
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Dr. Jamal Badawi is an Islamic scholar from Canada. Here is a very informative debate between two scholars, one Muslim and one Christian, on the differences in belief and why each believes differently. It's about 1.5 hrs long but very educational.

Fascinating to realize that both faiths are so similar in most regards but still have a few critical differences:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXN7PSVr2-U

I don't understand why you felt the need to post that. Of all the things about Muslims, the lack of their belief in Trinity is as un-controversial as it comes. Muslims aren't under any particular pressure to accept Trinity, so the only way to deal with this is "to you, your religion, and to me, mine." The reasons why Muslims don't believe in Trinity do not require an explanation.


It's certainly a different dynamic from all her Islam threads, where she posted first and everybody else is just responding to her. This time she's attacking Christianity directly.


Not quite. I love Christianity but just disagree with a few critical points, namely trinity and divinity of Jesus. Contrary to the islam haters who were hard pressed to find one positive thing to say about Islam.

That's not true. You never asked people to name what they like about Islam. Islam has plenty of good things to recommend it. You just happened to focus the discussion on the more controversial parts, like polygamy or concubinage.

You could have chosen any number of good things that Islam offers - the cohesion of families, the respect toward elders, the near-worship of mothers, the emphasis on men as protectors and supporters. That would have been good. I, an educated kaffirah, would have supported you in this. You chose the controversial parts. The controversy followed. No surprises here.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 22:24     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
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Dr. Jamal Badawi is an Islamic scholar from Canada. Here is a very informative debate between two scholars, one Muslim and one Christian, on the differences in belief and why each believes differently. It's about 1.5 hrs long but very educational.

Fascinating to realize that both faiths are so similar in most regards but still have a few critical differences:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXN7PSVr2-U

I don't understand why you felt the need to post that. Of all the things about Muslims, the lack of their belief in Trinity is as un-controversial as it comes. Muslims aren't under any particular pressure to accept Trinity, so the only way to deal with this is "to you, your religion, and to me, mine." The reasons why Muslims don't believe in Trinity do not require an explanation.


It's certainly a different dynamic from all her Islam threads, where she posted first and everybody else is just responding to her. This time she's attacking Christianity directly.

I don't feel she's attacking anything. Christians believe in Trinity, Muslims don't. That's a fact of life. It's not a judgment on anyone, it's an accurate description of their religion positions. What I'm saying is that I don't think a whole lot of people care why Muslims don't believe in trinity. They accept it as a fact that they don't, and move along. It's not something that requires an explanation.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 22:18     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Dr. Jamal Badawi is an Islamic scholar from Canada. Here is a very informative debate between two scholars, one Muslim and one Christian, on the differences in belief and why each believes differently. It's about 1.5 hrs long but very educational.

Fascinating to realize that both faiths are so similar in most regards but still have a few critical differences:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXN7PSVr2-U

I don't understand why you felt the need to post that. Of all the things about Muslims, the lack of their belief in Trinity is as un-controversial as it comes. Muslims aren't under any particular pressure to accept Trinity, so the only way to deal with this is "to you, your religion, and to me, mine." The reasons why Muslims don't believe in Trinity do not require an explanation.


It's certainly a different dynamic from all her Islam threads, where she posted first and everybody else is just responding to her. This time she's attacking Christianity directly.


Not quite. I love Christianity but just disagree with a few critical points, namely trinity and divinity of Jesus. Contrary to the islam haters who were hard pressed to find one positive thing to say about Islam.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 22:13     Subject: Why Muslims Don't Believe in Concept of Trinity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Dr. Jamal Badawi is an Islamic scholar from Canada. Here is a very informative debate between two scholars, one Muslim and one Christian, on the differences in belief and why each believes differently. It's about 1.5 hrs long but very educational.

Fascinating to realize that both faiths are so similar in most regards but still have a few critical differences:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXN7PSVr2-U

I don't understand why you felt the need to post that. Of all the things about Muslims, the lack of their belief in Trinity is as un-controversial as it comes. Muslims aren't under any particular pressure to accept Trinity, so the only way to deal with this is "to you, your religion, and to me, mine." The reasons why Muslims don't believe in Trinity do not require an explanation.


It's certainly a different dynamic from all her Islam threads, where she posted first and everybody else is just responding to her. This time she's attacking Christianity directly.