Agree with this. Even after my dad got sober, my mom continued to be angry with him. He wasn't perfect by any means but she had failed to see that there was more going on than just the drinking and that she was part of it. I wish she had gone to Al-Anon and learned to understand her role in the family dynamics. And, well, later I realized that she was a secret alcoholic and was very good at hiding it but that's another story. Good luck, OP!Anonymous wrote:Alcoholism is a powerful disease that affects not only the drinker but also his/her entire family.
Please contact Al-Anon.
It is a fellowship designed to support family members who are affected by an alcoholic.
Google for Al-Anon washington dc and call them. Please!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I gave to say, YOU sound a bit selfish. He's sober now. This is the time to rebuild, not focus on past issues.
OP here. I realize I didn't explain this very well but obviously from other responses there are plenty of people who understand what it is like. Here is just one of many examples: he has turned his energies to the gym, which is great - he has a release, he is staying in shape, etc. we have 2 kids including one with special needs and intense jobs, and always agreed to split the work 50/50 (including when I made a big career leap recently only after he encouraged me to) but I've bent over backwards to make sure he gets that gym time. Except, he doesn't get his share of family stuff done, and I am giving up my own gym/friend/personal time to do his stuff and make space for him. For a year, even 4 or 5 while he gets a handle on staying sober, fine, but I'm looking ahead 10 years and thinking I don't want to spend the rest of my days with someone who always puts his own needs first, before kids or me. That's kind of what I'm asking here - is there any hope of going back to a more equal partnership or do I have 3 kids for the duration?
As far as 12 step, he did a different type of program. I don't really know how it lines up with 12 step. I guess I just thought looking at your relationships would be a natural part of any recovery program, but maybe not...
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You know, a lot of people travel, go to restaurants and host parties without drinking. Is he able to be around drinkers yet? If not, I can see the problem. If he is able to be around drinking and you still don't see the point or travel, restaurants, hosting friends, etc without alcohol you might have a problem as well.
Fair point, and yes, he can be around someone who is drinking, though I am not sure about a really boozy evening - we just avoid those. And we will do other kinds of travel. But it is like losing one of the things you enjoy with your partner and connect / bond over. We used to enjoy food and wine tourism - have done Australia, NZ, Italy, all over No Cal, etc. sure he's not stopping me from ordering a glass but I'm not going to drag him to montepulciano, either. This may seem overly dramatic and perhaps it is but it is just one more loss, possibly brought into focus by recently treating my mom and dad to a couple of special retirement trips like this (what I always thought we'd grow old doin together).
Anonymous wrote:I gave to say, YOU sound a bit selfish. He's sober now. This is the time to rebuild, not focus on past issues.
Anonymous wrote:We've been married 10+ years, 2 kids (5 and 3). Our early years were filled with travel, great restaurants, lots of wine, etc. kids wore us down, and then the addiction became apparent. After several false starts, DH just marked 1 year of sobriety. Our marriage is a wreck. We dont fight or anything, and are good parents together, we just never spend any quality time together (evenings on respective electronic devices, no date nights, no sex for years).... Its pretty lonely. I think I am just really angry at him... I actually do understand addiction but the sneaking around, lying to my face ("are you drinking agin?") took its toll - it feels like being cheated on. And also, I know I cant do anything about this part, but a lot of our fun and recreation was food and wine related, from hosting parties to world travel, and now that's gone and I'm disappointed and sad and not sure what we'll do when we can travel and spend time together without kids.
I havent really talked to him about being angry because i wanted him to have the space he needed to get sober, but I thought his rehab program would at some point have turned to healing family wounds, and that seems not to have happened.
I know we need to just make time for counseling (easier said than done), but I have questions for anyone who has been through this: is it not typical for rehab programs (not AA but a real program) to spend some time on relationships? Can you recover from years of living apart but together? Is an alcoholic spouse always going to use that as an excuse to be selfish? (Feels that way to me but maybe I'm just letting him get away with it). Any other advice besides counseling?
), Sites like soberrecovery.com have great family sections. You can also read the other forums to help you understand what's going on with your husband and his thought processes.