Anonymous wrote:Plus, swarthmore in top 5. That is hilarious.

Why would you say that? Take a look at their stats, including the common data set. Forbes is clear about their methodology but you probably didn't bother to read that.

Anonymous wrote:Lists tilts heavily toward the microschools located in remote areas. No way are schools like NYU way below microscopic colleges like F&M.

Not a fan of USNEWS, but their methodology seems to yield more believable results than this one.

F&M has fantastic stats with respect to graduate school placement. Also their pre-professional slant is an attribute that a publication like Forbes like.

Anonymous wrote:And Pomona eight and Carleton in the top 20.

Hey, don't be dissing Carleton.

All different types of schools together but looks about right.

Anonymous wrote:This list is crap - it's more like a list of Ivy league and smallish privates in the northeast plus a few west coast schools. This should be re-termed the Ivy league and private lib schools list. How many schools in the south are represented in the top 50 - maybe 5?

How many should be? 5 sounds generous.

Anonymous wrote:Plus, swarthmore in top 5. That is hilarious.

swat is a very good school with substandard career services and recruiting.

Otherwise it is excellent.

Unlike lots of other very elite lac's it has good access to a large city as well.

You haven't kept up with your alumni news. Yale and Princeton are need-blind now...much different than 20 years ago.

Anonymous wrote:How is it that only 8% of kids at Yale and Princeton need to take out loans, and where was this generous financial aid program when I attended 20 years ago? Or are they not letting the poors in anymore, it at such low rates they can afford to fully subsidize them?

Anonymous wrote:Plus, swarthmore in top 5. That is hilarious.

+1 on this one!

Anonymous wrote:How is it that only 8% of kids at Yale and Princeton need to take out loans, and where was this generous financial aid program when I attended 20 years ago? Or are they not letting the poors in anymore, it at such low rates they can afford to fully subsidize them?

10 or 15 years ago, Harvard and Yale both developed programs that were specifically targeted at limiting the amount of loans that middle class and working class kids need to take. It's a really good thing. Other schools have followed suit. I wish I'd had that kind of FA, but I'm glad it's there for my kids. I's not a huge Ivy fan, but it makes applying to the Ivies worthwhile. It's a better deal than my state school for middle class kids who can get admitted.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the list is right on target.

Not with Williams as no. 1.

Williams has always been a op notch school.

Williams combines the focus and attention of a tiny lac with the recruiting/network/access to jobs of an ivy - there's a reason why its the number one lac in the country.

Bucolic location, but can either be suffocatingly isolated which is probably the biggest downside to the school but no school is perfect

Anonymous wrote:How is it that only 8% of kids at Yale and Princeton need to take out loans, and where was this generous financial aid program when I attended 20 years ago? Or are they not letting the poors in anymore, it at such low rates they can afford to fully subsidize them?

You went before they got super generous with grants.

But 'need' to take loans is a very terrible measure because it is measured by 'need'.

Any any student or parent taht has done fafsa knows that what they assess as your 'need' is different from what is comfortable for you - especially for middle/upper middle class families who were really diligent and sacrificed to build savings and assets but are not necessarily rich.

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How is it that only 8% of kids at Yale and Princeton need to take out loans, and where was this generous financial aid program when I attended 20 years ago? Or are they not letting the poors in anymore, it at such low rates they can afford to fully subsidize them?

And Pomona eight and Carleton in the top 20.

Plus, swarthmore in top 5. That is hilarious.