Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 11:06     Subject: Re:Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
Anonymous



All of you, please go watch this documentary for free on youtube. It is narrated by an american woman, the one who created the organization " if americans knew". Please watch it if you don't know much about this conflict: is called occupation 101 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8twvXHUNrXY

Was she killed by the Israelis? The Israel do not tolerate dissent for Americans.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:51     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
Anonymous wrote:One sided factually inaccurate propaganda.

^ Love how this comment can be directed to almost any and every post about this issue. People are going to choose facts to support their beliefs.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:49     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
One sided factually inaccurate propaganda.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:31     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
Anonymous wrote:There were tunnels in the Warsaw ghetto too.
Opression breeds creativity.


Well said.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:21     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
All of you, please go watch this documentary for free on youtube. It is narrated by an american woman, the one who created the organization " if americans knew". Please watch it if you don't know much about this conflict: is called occupation 101 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8twvXHUNrXY
jsteele
Post 07/25/2014 10:19     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Were there two rockets found in the hospital or was it another "humanitarian" organization where they were found? I just heard this on the radio last night and the English guy in charge said he couldn't say the rockets belonged to Hamas because they didn't have labels on them that said "Hamas." Oh brother. Yes, they are using their own people in this fight.


Had not heard about the ones in a hospital. But the U.N. - which strongly favors the Palestinians - recently complained (twice) because they (the UN) found terror rockets in UN schools.

The terror rockets were hidden there by Hamas - a designated terrorist organization. Everyone knows this. Only a fool would disagree.


You probably think I am a fool regardless, but I disagree. You, like many Americans, appear to have only a very rudimentary understanding of things in Gaza. Hamas is not the only militant group in Gaza. There is Islamic Jihad, the secular groups such as the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and the Syrian Social National Party (this group supports the unity of Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria). I think the previous poster is incorrect about rockets being found in a hospital -- she probably confused what she heard with the school incidents. But, it is impossible for us to know to whom the rockets belonged. In the conspiracy-ripe Middle East, they could even conceivably have been planted by someone. But, clearly, not everyone knows that the rockets were hidden by Hamas. There is simply not enough evidence to demonstrate that, though many people want to believe it and won't require evidence to support their belief.



You're right, I don't know much about this conflict -- but when all the possibilities point to pro-Palestinian groups, does the distinction really matter? They are putting rockets in places that dare Israel to kill civilians. That is so wrong.


Yes, the distinction is very important. Would you want to be blamed for something someone else did? But, I agree that it is wrong to store weapons in such places.

BTW, the US is providing aid and support to the Syrian rebels. Has everyone carefully reviewed their activities to ensure those groups don't store weapons in schools or fire them from civilian areas? Not that the US would ever be hypocritical -- couldn't possibly happen -- but it would be odd to support and supply groups doing the same things for which Israel is bombing Palestinians with US support and supplies.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:15     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
Muslim poster bAck. All of you talking about Hamas being around civilians. Have you been to Ghaza? Have you seen ghaza? Where do you want HAMAS to go? WHhere are they supposed to hide? GHAZA is all civilians, it is the most dense area in the entire globe.it is ALL civilian, there is no battlefield, do you get that?
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:14     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
Anonymous wrote:Muslim poster back. I have calmed down a bit, so no more caps.
So, hypothesize that you and your extended family are being held in your home, unable to leave for work, shopping, school, or medical attention, and your electric and water are delivered or shut off at the whim of your captors. They have all the bells and whistles: armored vehicles, automatic weapons, grenades, etc. You find a pistol, and fire it out the window. Ah, now they're justified in killing you and the family so they can "defend themselves." Really??? After they kill your kids and half of your family, they offer a truce: "you promise not to shoot and they will too ... but everything else remains the same." Sound like a good deal to you? Do you get it now? Think about this the next time you hear someone say, "Israel has a right to defend itself," or "Israel offered them a cease fire, and they refused. I can swear that if you lived in Ghaza in the conditions that the Ghazans live in, you would throw more than a rocket


This is also just what I heard on the radio, but Hamas is telling people to stay in their homes and stand their ground when they know Israel is planning on attacking those homes. How sick is that. i heard the Palestinian say that on the radio so it was not spin, it was his own words. They are using their own people to make others hate Israel. Can't you come up with a better way PP? You are not going to win. You should find a way to work with Israel so your children can have a better future.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:12     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
The world needs to impose sanctions against Israel.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:11     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Were there two rockets found in the hospital or was it another "humanitarian" organization where they were found? I just heard this on the radio last night and the English guy in charge said he couldn't say the rockets belonged to Hamas because they didn't have labels on them that said "Hamas." Oh brother. Yes, they are using their own people in this fight.


Had not heard about the ones in a hospital. But the U.N. - which strongly favors the Palestinians - recently complained (twice) because they (the UN) found terror rockets in UN schools.

The terror rockets were hidden there by Hamas - a designated terrorist organization. Everyone knows this. Only a fool would disagree.


You probably think I am a fool regardless, but I disagree. You, like many Americans, appear to have only a very rudimentary understanding of things in Gaza. Hamas is not the only militant group in Gaza. There is Islamic Jihad, the secular groups such as the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and the Syrian Social National Party (this group supports the unity of Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria). I think the previous poster is incorrect about rockets being found in a hospital -- she probably confused what she heard with the school incidents. But, it is impossible for us to know to whom the rockets belonged. In the conspiracy-ripe Middle East, they could even conceivably have been planted by someone. But, clearly, not everyone knows that the rockets were hidden by Hamas. There is simply not enough evidence to demonstrate that, though many people want to believe it and won't require evidence to support their belief.



You're right, I don't know much about this conflict -- but when all the possibilities point to pro-Palestinian groups, does the distinction really matter? They are putting rockets in places that dare Israel to kill civilians. That is so wrong.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:10     Subject: Re:Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
7:27 you are full of baloney. People in Gaza get plenty of food via the UN, Oxfam, and other humanitarian agencies. The tunnels are obviously used for terrorism, you moron.

Also, Israel does NOT control Gaza's border with EGYPT which is where a lot of the tunnels are. Why would the Egyptians restrict food and medicine? Why don't you blame them for anything? Is there something particular about Israelis you don't like, hmmmm?


STOP LYING YOU TWIT. DO YOU LIVE IN GAZHA??? Have you ever been there? Do you have family there? Heck no you don't, I FREAKING DO.. PEOPLE DON'T GET FOOD STOP THE LIES, I AM SICK OF THESE LIES. I HAVE SEEN KIDS EATING BREAD THAT IS GREEN N BLACK THAT WOULD MAKE YOU PUKE BECAUSE THEY ARE HUNGRY, KIDS EATING DIRT. STOP THE LIES.STOP KILLING MY PEOple. STOP CALLING US TERRORRISTS. IF SOMEONE CAME TO THE US, STOLE YOUR LAND AND PUT YOU IN AN OPEN PRISON, YOU WOULD THROW ROCKS TOO. JUST STOP ITTTTT. THE EGYPTIANS RESTRICT FOOD N MEDICINE BECAUSE THEY SLEEP WITH YOUR GOVERNMENT. NOT LATER THAN A FEW DAYS AGO, EGYPT TURNED BACK AN ENTIRE PLANE FROM TURKEY FULL OF HUMANITARIAN AID N FOOD . DID YOU MISS THAT? GOOGLE IT N STOP BEING SO BLIND. UGHHHH YES IM PISSED THAT MY PEOPLE ARE DYING N YOU ARE LYING ABOUT THEM


Your people are dying because your leaders are murdering, terrorist thugs.


If there is no food, why has Hamas invested so much money, resources, and time on the 1000+ missiles they fired AT ISRAELI CIVILIANS?

They supposedly have at least 1000 more rockets. Why wasn't that money spent on food if its as bad as you claim? Ask Hamas - THEY chose terror weapons over food.

Finally, American Jews invested $14.5 million dollars of their own money to help Gazans grow food in Gaza for profit and to feed their own people; Gazans squandered the chance. The ripped the project apart. Stole everything. This was in 2005 after Israel gave them back control of Gaza.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9331863/ns/world_news-mi...ooters-strip-gaza-greenhouses/

If they now allege that they are starving, it is their own fault.

It's Israel's fault. There is no threat to Israel's security from Gaza or Hamas. Yet Israel kills civilians in Gaza that is murder. Israel needs to be punished.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:10     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
Muslim poster back. I have calmed down a bit, so no more caps.
So, hypothesize that you and your extended family are being held in your home, unable to leave for work, shopping, school, or medical attention, and your electric and water are delivered or shut off at the whim of your captors. They have all the bells and whistles: armored vehicles, automatic weapons, grenades, etc. You find a pistol, and fire it out the window. Ah, now they're justified in killing you and the family so they can "defend themselves." Really??? After they kill your kids and half of your family, they offer a truce: "you promise not to shoot and they will too ... but everything else remains the same." Sound like a good deal to you? Do you get it now? Think about this the next time you hear someone say, "Israel has a right to defend itself," or "Israel offered them a cease fire, and they refused. I can swear that if you lived in Ghaza in the conditions that the Ghazans live in, you would throw more than a rocket
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:03     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:7:27 you are full of baloney. People in Gaza get plenty of food via the UN, Oxfam, and other humanitarian agencies. The tunnels are obviously used for terrorism, you moron.

Also, Israel does NOT control Gaza's border with EGYPT which is where a lot of the tunnels are. Why would the Egyptians restrict food and medicine? Why don't you blame them for anything? Is there something particular about Israelis you don't like, hmmmm?


STOP LYING YOU TWIT. DO YOU LIVE IN GAZHA??? Have you ever been there? Do you have family there? Heck no you don't, I FREAKING DO.. PEOPLE DON'T GET FOOD STOP THE LIES, I AM SICK OF THESE LIES. I HAVE SEEN KIDS EATING BREAD THAT IS GREEN N BLACK THAT WOULD MAKE YOU PUKE BECAUSE THEY ARE HUNGRY, KIDS EATING DIRT. STOP THE LIES.STOP KILLING MY PEOple. STOP CALLING US TERRORRISTS. IF SOMEONE CAME TO THE US, STOLE YOUR LAND AND PUT YOU IN AN OPEN PRISON, YOU WOULD THROW ROCKS TOO. JUST STOP ITTTTT. THE EGYPTIANS RESTRICT FOOD N MEDICINE BECAUSE THEY SLEEP WITH YOUR GOVERNMENT. NOT LATER THAN A FEW DAYS AGO, EGYPT TURNED BACK AN ENTIRE PLANE FROM TURKEY FULL OF HUMANITARIAN AID N FOOD . DID YOU MISS THAT? GOOGLE IT N STOP BEING SO BLIND. UGHHHH YES IM PISSED THAT MY PEOPLE ARE DYING N YOU ARE LYING ABOUT THEM


Your people are dying because your leaders are murdering, terrorist thugs.


If there is no food, why has Hamas invested so much money, resources, and time on the 1000+ missiles they fired AT ISRAELI CIVILIANS?

They supposedly have at least 1000 more rockets. Why wasn't that money spent on food if its as bad as you claim? Ask Hamas - THEY chose terror weapons over food.

Finally, American Jews invested $14.5 million dollars of their own money to help Gazans grow food in Gaza for profit and to feed their own people; Gazans squandered the chance. The ripped the project apart. Stole everything. This was in 2005 after Israel gave them back control of Gaza.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9331863/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/looters-strip-gaza-greenhouses/

If they now allege that they are starving, it is their own fault.

Anonymous
Post 07/25/2014 10:01     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
Anytime I hear Israel I think of children being killed. The word makes me sick.
jsteele
Post 07/25/2014 10:00     Subject: Hamas terror tunnels into Israel
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Were there two rockets found in the hospital or was it another "humanitarian" organization where they were found? I just heard this on the radio last night and the English guy in charge said he couldn't say the rockets belonged to Hamas because they didn't have labels on them that said "Hamas." Oh brother. Yes, they are using their own people in this fight.


Had not heard about the ones in a hospital. But the U.N. - which strongly favors the Palestinians - recently complained (twice) because they (the UN) found terror rockets in UN schools.

The terror rockets were hidden there by Hamas - a designated terrorist organization. Everyone knows this. Only a fool would disagree.


You probably think I am a fool regardless, but I disagree. You, like many Americans, appear to have only a very rudimentary understanding of things in Gaza. Hamas is not the only militant group in Gaza. There is Islamic Jihad, the secular groups such as the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and the Syrian Social National Party (this group supports the unity of Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria). I think the previous poster is incorrect about rockets being found in a hospital -- she probably confused what she heard with the school incidents. But, it is impossible for us to know to whom the rockets belonged. In the conspiracy-ripe Middle East, they could even conceivably have been planted by someone. But, clearly, not everyone knows that the rockets were hidden by Hamas. There is simply not enough evidence to demonstrate that, though many people want to believe it and won't require evidence to support their belief.