Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 22:30     Subject: If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many Arab countries are there? Why can't the Palestinians go there? Answer? The Arab countries don't want them.



Well that and the Palestinians were living where they were for 1,000s of years.


Guess what? Jews were there first.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 22:28     Subject: If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Anonymous wrote:How many Arab countries are there? Why can't the Palestinians go there? Answer? The Arab countries don't want them.



Well that and the Palestinians were living where they were for 1,000s of years.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 22:27     Subject: Re:If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good article about the Israeli psyche and how the Israeli Jews justify their own crimes against humanity.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/20/gaza-occupation-occupier-israelis-peace


A couple of points.
Israel is not strong, it is heavily aided by the US.
Israel can not fully defend herself without the US.
Palestinians were not the enemy, Israelis made them into the enemy. The real enemy was Germany and Israel CAN NOT FIGHT GERMANY (in all ways).
Israel is projecting anger onto the Palestinians, and that makes Israel feel strong.
Even if Israel looks at other past enemies like Russia, Poland, Romania, Austria, France, England... she could not fight them.


You are completely off base. Go get educated you idiot.


Not pp, but if you're going to resort to name calling instead of deconstructing someone's comment respectfully, then you may as well exit and forfeit your position.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 22:27     Subject: If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Anonymous wrote:How many Arab countries are there? Why can't the Palestinians go there? Answer? The Arab countries don't want them.

Even the Arab governments are blaming Hamas for the current crisis. Only leftists, including self hating Jews blame Israel.

I have read the most appalling propaganda on DCUM. Judaism is a religion of peace. Israeli doctors treat those who are wounded. They call and air drop leaflets to warn people before they bomb. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.


Why SHOULD the Palestinians go somewhere else? They have a home already.

But your answer is very typical of the Israeli psyche who wishes most of all that these Palestinians would DISAPPEAR ALREADY!

Fat lot of good did these warnings do to the kids who got killed. Yah, they warn people. Where would you have these people go? Gaza Ritz Carlton? Ooops, there isn't one.

"Judalim is a religion of peace" is the worst piece of propaganda I've read today, though.

Israeli doctors treat the wounded but Israeli soldiers hold up ambulances at checkpoints so people die before reaching these wonderful doctors.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 22:26     Subject: Re:If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good article about the Israeli psyche and how the Israeli Jews justify their own crimes against humanity.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/20/gaza-occupation-occupier-israelis-peace


A couple of points.
Israel is not strong, it is heavily aided by the US.
Israel can not fully defend herself without the US.
Palestinians were not the enemy, Israelis made them into the enemy. The real enemy was Germany and Israel CAN NOT FIGHT GERMANY (in all ways).
Israel is projecting anger onto the Palestinians, and that makes Israel feel strong.
Even if Israel looks at other past enemies like Russia, Poland, Romania, Austria, France, England... she could not fight them.


You are completely off base. Go get educated you idiot.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 22:24     Subject: If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Interesting point about blacks and Hispanics supporting Israel. Perhaps it's a general understanding for the right and need for self preservation?

I'm a staunch supporter of Israel and, looking at my Facebook friends, those who are posting similar supportive messages are my politically conservative Jewish friends, my religious Jewish friends (many of whom are Dems) and my religious Christian friends.

I've mentioned this on another thread but a sizable population of American Jews are self hating.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 22:21     Subject: If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many Arab countries are there? Why can't the Palestinians go there? Answer? The Arab countries don't want them.

Even the Arab governments are blaming Hamas for the current crisis. Only leftists, including self hating Jews blame Israel.

I have read the most appalling propaganda on DCUM. Judaism is a religion of peace. Israeli doctors treat those who are wounded. They call and air drop leaflets to warn people before they bomb. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.



I have read the most appalling rationalizations for the cold blooded murder of innocent Palestinian children on DCUM. It is so out of touch with the revulsion most of the world feels towards Israel right now.


not really.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/world/middleeast/palestinians-find-show-of-support-lacking-from-arab-nations-amid-offensive.html?_r=0

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/as-gaza-death-toll-mounts-american-politicians-rally-behind-israel/

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/US-public-support-for-Israel-at-near-record-highs-363051



Furthermore, the poll – carried out from July 8 to July 14 – indicates that support for Israel among blacks and Hispanics – demographic groups to which Israeli advocacy groups are increasingly reaching out – is more than double what it is for the Palestinians.

White evangelicals are – with the possible exception of Jews, who were not a demographic studied in this survey – the most sympathetic for Israel, while those unaffiliated with any church are the least supportive.




I was the one who posted about APAC reaching out to these groups, obviously it is working....they should ask themselves what Israel has done for them lately.



I guarantee African Americans and Hispanics are not sitting around wringing their hands over what you and some white pollsters think given that these same organizations will define minorities in any light that will give people like yourself justification and affirmation that minorities are incapable of thinking for themselves.

No minority is asking what Israel, or Palestine for that matter, has done for them lately. And if minorities should be watching over there shoulders, it should be for people like you.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 22:15     Subject: If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
The Palestinians are pawns in the Arab world. This is my point. As "refugees" if the Arab world really cared about them, they'd open their borders and let them in.

Palestinians are the most free people in the Arab world. If they'd stop electing terrorists and blowing themselves up things could be quite nice for them.

Let me remind you:
Israel calls and drops leaflets telling the Palestinians to leave for their own safety. News reports say many don't leave because they don't want to be told what to do or Hamas won't let them
Israeli soldiers have lost their lives today giving advanced warning to the enemy of their intentions to bomb
Israel treats Palestinian wounded
Israel heeds ceasefires
Without the iron dome, the death toll on Israel would be catastrophic

Judaism places such high value on human life that Israelis will trade hundreds of prisoners for one- just one- Israeli.

Enough is enough. Israelis have lived in fear everyday of their lives. It's time to destroy those tunnels and missile sights once and for all.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 21:47     Subject: Re:If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
To the last point, the leading newspaper in France has referred to the Israel strikes in Gaza as a "massacre," which is how this viewed in the rest of the world.

http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/article/2014/07/20/israel-accentue-ses-attaques-terrestres-a-gaza_4460182_3218.html

Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 21:38     Subject: Re:If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
The US is an outlier, but even here attitudes are changing among younger, college-educated adults who will be setting US policy in the future.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 21:34     Subject: If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many Arab countries are there? Why can't the Palestinians go there? Answer? The Arab countries don't want them.

Even the Arab governments are blaming Hamas for the current crisis. Only leftists, including self hating Jews blame Israel.

I have read the most appalling propaganda on DCUM. Judaism is a religion of peace. Israeli doctors treat those who are wounded. They call and air drop leaflets to warn people before they bomb. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.



I have read the most appalling rationalizations for the cold blooded murder of innocent Palestinian children on DCUM. It is so out of touch with the revulsion most of the world feels towards Israel right now.


not really.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/world/middleeast/palestinians-find-show-of-support-lacking-from-arab-nations-amid-offensive.html?_r=0

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/as-gaza-death-toll-mounts-american-politicians-rally-behind-israel/

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/US-public-support-for-Israel-at-near-record-highs-363051



Furthermore, the poll – carried out from July 8 to July 14 – indicates that support for Israel among blacks and Hispanics – demographic groups to which Israeli advocacy groups are increasingly reaching out – is more than double what it is for the Palestinians.

White evangelicals are – with the possible exception of Jews, who were not a demographic studied in this survey – the most sympathetic for Israel, while those unaffiliated with any church are the least supportive.




I was the one who posted about APAC reaching out to these groups, obviously it is working....they should ask themselves what Israel has done for them lately.



Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 21:33     Subject: If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Why doesn't Israel just kill every Palestinian and be done with it once and for all? This is a conflict that will neve be resolved. What a waste.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 21:24     Subject: If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many Arab countries are there? Why can't the Palestinians go there? Answer? The Arab countries don't want them.

Even the Arab governments are blaming Hamas for the current crisis. Only leftists, including self hating Jews blame Israel.

I have read the most appalling propaganda on DCUM. Judaism is a religion of peace. Israeli doctors treat those who are wounded. They call and air drop leaflets to warn people before they bomb. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.



I have read the most appalling rationalizations for the cold blooded murder of innocent Palestinian children on DCUM. It is so out of touch with the revulsion most of the world feels towards Israel right now.


not really.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/world/middleeast/palestinians-find-show-of-support-lacking-from-arab-nations-amid-offensive.html?_r=0

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/as-gaza-death-toll-mounts-american-politicians-rally-behind-israel/

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/US-public-support-for-Israel-at-near-record-highs-363051





Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 20:46     Subject: If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Western countries created Israel. They basically took the problem of Europe and threw in in Asia.

No one asked the permission of Palestine and other Arab countries to take their land and create Israel.

So, there is no way the bloodshed will ever stop. And there is no way that this violence and terrorism will not effect US and Europe as well.

When you take away everything from people - they have nothing left to live for. These people become terrorists and suicide bombers because the worst has already happened to them.


The vast majority of people in history have not reacted to change in this way. The history of America is built on people who came here after they "had everything taken away from them" and decided to start over, make the most of life and what the world had to offer.

Sorry, there is no excuse for their behavior.


Really, do you see any large, sparsely populated but resource rich land masses for them to relocate?
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2014 20:40     Subject: Re:If I had been a Holocaust survivor, I would want an Israel too, but
Anonymous wrote:Good article about the Israeli psyche and how the Israeli Jews justify their own crimes against humanity.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/20/gaza-occupation-occupier-israelis-peace


A couple of points.
Israel is not strong, it is heavily aided by the US.
Israel can not fully defend herself without the US.
Palestinians were not the enemy, Israelis made them into the enemy. The real enemy was Germany and Israel CAN NOT FIGHT GERMANY (in all ways).
Israel is projecting anger onto the Palestinians, and that makes Israel feel strong.
Even if Israel looks at other past enemies like Russia, Poland, Romania, Austria, France, England... she could not fight them.