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Anonymous wrote:My young adult daughter wants to give her used iPhone 4 to a friend when she upgrades in September (or whenever the 6 is released). I bought this phone but am not funding the upgrade to the 6. I think that my daughter should sell the phone to the friend for a reasonable price and use that to offset the cost of the upgrade to the 6. I just want to present my DD with a reasonable price point she could get if she sold the phone on Craigslist or Ebay and then I will step out of it.
A little background: The friend is from a much more well-off family than ours. She has never had a job and jokes that she doesn't need one. Her parents are paying for her college tuition and related expenses, but no luxuries. So this young woman (21 or 22) relies on her friends and boyfriends to pay for drinks & meals on nights out, vacations, etc. She also takes friends' castoff clothing, makeup, and electronics.
My daughter is alternately sick of her freeloading friend and sympathetic to her. The friend was using our Hulu Plus, Netflix, and HBO Go accounts until I changed the password and told my daughter not to give out the new one. To be honest, I'd prefer to see my DD give the phone to a charity for battered women, rather than give it to the friend, but I have promised to step out of it once I give her a suggested worth.

I'm being brutally honest here OP: You are being tacky. I came from an average/struggling family. My mother would've told me the same. But believe me, people with money don't understand "tit for tat" and they think it's really tacky coming from a BF. Isn't her friendship worth more than a few bucks? I mean what are we talking - $50? I'd drop it and please, don't teach her this behavior. People their age don't like it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about tit for tat. We have never expected anything in return from this young woman. good thing, too since she's never offered anything in return for all that her friends do for her.
I just want my daughter to understand what the phone is potentially worth since she will be the one working to pay for her new phone. I am providing the info and stepping back rather than dictating what she should do.

Damn - just stop being so tackily cheap!!! OMG. Someone just took my broken iphone 4, sold it on ebay for $30, bought a used one on ebay for $80, and reloaded all my data and upgraded to IOS. He said its on the house - I'm paying him $100 even though my sneakers are 5 years old because I'm not a tacky cheap-O. What would you do? Ask him for an itemized receipt, and then print out some sales comparables, then calculate what his labor is worth per hour (even if it was a best friend)? We are not talking about a car here. It's an old ass iphone 4 - they existed like almost 10 years ago.

Anonymous wrote:I just sold all 4 of my family's iPhone 4s for $135-155 each on ebay. They sell even better if you unlock them

Anonymous wrote:It's not about tit for tat. We have never expected anything in return from this young woman. good thing, too since she's never offered anything in return for all that her friends do for her.
I just want my daughter to understand what the phone is potentially worth since she will be the one working to pay for her new phone. I am providing the info and stepping back rather than dictating what she should do.

Anonymous wrote:I'm being brutally honest here OP: You are being tacky. I came from an average/struggling family. My mother would've told me the same. But believe me, people with money don't understand "tit for tat" and they think it's really tacky coming from a BF. Isn't her friendship worth more than a few bucks? I mean what are we talking - $50? I'd drop it and please, don't teach her this behavior. People their age don't like it.

Anonymous wrote:My young adult daughter wants to give her used iPhone 4 to a friend when she upgrades in September (or whenever the 6 is released). I bought this phone but am not funding the upgrade to the 6. I think that my daughter should sell the phone to the friend for a reasonable price and use that to offset the cost of the upgrade to the 6. I just want to present my DD with a reasonable price point she could get if she sold the phone on Craigslist or Ebay and then I will step out of it.
A little background: The friend is from a much more well-off family than ours. She has never had a job and jokes that she doesn't need one. Her parents are paying for her college tuition and related expenses, but no luxuries. So this young woman (21 or 22) relies on her friends and boyfriends to pay for drinks & meals on nights out, vacations, etc. She also takes friends' castoff clothing, makeup, and electronics.
My daughter is alternately sick of her freeloading friend and sympathetic to her. The friend was using our Hulu Plus, Netflix, and HBO Go accounts until I changed the password and told my daughter not to give out the new one. To be honest, I'd prefer to see my DD give the phone to a charity for battered women, rather than give it to the friend, but I have promised to step out of it once I give her a suggested worth.

Anonymous wrote:If you bought the phone, I think it's fair that you decide what happens to it, e.g., donating it to a shelter or selling it.

(This friend sounds like a sponge. If her parents aren't giving her an allowance above paying for her tuition, they probably expect and/or hope that she would be getting a job. I find it a little appalling that she relies on everyone else to pay for her. I'm surprised she has friends.)