Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 13:28     Subject: mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:I'm the person you quoted. I have a placard. I wouldn't dream of "busting" anyone else since I know that many/most disabilities are hidden, not visible. You are projecting.


So your in the hollered/glared at group. Only makes sense you would want to keep things quiet and maintain your privilege.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 13:17     Subject: mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes I fully understand that. But it seems to me that 99% of the threads on DCUM are started by Group #3. The fraudbusters. The self-appointed fraudbusters. And again, I repeat, WHY IS THIS THE HILL YOU WANT TO DIE ON?


I would suspect that 99% of the fraudbusters are placard owners. And they want to die on that hill because it personally impacts them.


I'm the person you quoted. I have a placard. I wouldn't dream of "busting" anyone else since I know that many/most disabilities are hidden, not visible. You are projecting.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 13:15     Subject: mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:Yes I fully understand that. But it seems to me that 99% of the threads on DCUM are started by Group #3. The fraudbusters. The self-appointed fraudbusters. And again, I repeat, WHY IS THIS THE HILL YOU WANT TO DIE ON?


I would suspect that 99% of the fraudbusters are placard owners. And they want to die on that hill because it personally impacts them.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 13:04     Subject: mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really can't believe the number of threads on here about handicapped parking. Why is this the hill that people want to die on?

I have a handicapped parking tag. IT'S REALLY NOT THAT GREAT. It doesn't make my life bliss and perfection. I'm not shooting rainbows out of my ass constantly because of it. What the hell is the big deal?


There's two main voices in this fight. Those that absolutely need handicap parking, like wheelchair users that require the extra space in order to get in/out of their vehicle. And those with placards who get hollered/glared at. The first group is concerned because of the increasing demand for handicap parking and the lack of availability. The second group is concerned because they may lose their privilege to solve the first groups issue. Lastly, you have the general topic of fraud, which everyone likes to talk about.


Yes I fully understand that. But it seems to me that 99% of the threads on DCUM are started by Group #3. The fraudbusters. The self-appointed fraudbusters. And again, I repeat, WHY IS THIS THE HILL YOU WANT TO DIE ON?
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 12:56     Subject: mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:In this thread, has any wheelchair user complained about the absence of appropriate parking? I saw a number of able-bodied people who don't understand whose behavior they can control.


You can't tell from a forum post if someone is able-bodied or not unless they specifically state so. And even then, there's no way to tell if they are being truthful or just embellishing their point of view.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 12:51     Subject: mute & handicap parking
In this thread, has any wheelchair user complained about the absence of appropriate parking? I saw a number of able-bodied people who don't understand whose behavior they can control.

Don't park in the handicap parking unless you have a permit. Even if you have a placard for Granny, don't use it unless Granny is with you. Teach your children to do the same things when they are old enough to drive. That's the best you can do.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 12:36     Subject: mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:I really can't believe the number of threads on here about handicapped parking. Why is this the hill that people want to die on?

I have a handicapped parking tag. IT'S REALLY NOT THAT GREAT. It doesn't make my life bliss and perfection. I'm not shooting rainbows out of my ass constantly because of it. What the hell is the big deal?


There's two main voices in this fight. Those that absolutely need handicap parking, like wheelchair users that require the extra space in order to get in/out of their vehicle. And those with placards who get hollered/glared at. The first group is concerned because of the increasing demand for handicap parking and the lack of availability. The second group is concerned because they may lose their privilege to solve the first groups issue. Lastly, you have the general topic of fraud, which everyone likes to talk about.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 10:30     Subject: mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an otherwise, normal looking guy with a pacemaker/ICD that maxes my heart rate at 125 bpm from a life threatening birth defect. Sometimes it is difficult for me to park far from the store especially during extremes of hot, cold, high winds, etc.

My wife encourages me to get a parking pass for it but I don't because cunts like you are too busy judging people who don't "look" disabled. Focus on digging out that big fat bug up your ass and mind your own fucking business. Are you the whore on the other thread who sucked 36 dicks in one night?


Okay I was with you for the first paragraph but you really went downhill on the second one there and completely lost your shit. Now that can't be good for your heart. Simmer down there, tiger. People are assholes sometimes.


I was with him all the way to the last sentence. This OP deserved that tongue lashing. The OP of the other thread didn't deserve to brought into it.

I will never ever ever understand why people question others' use of handicap tags. It's the epitome of absolutely none of your business.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 07:13     Subject: mute & handicap parking
Twice in my life I had Handicap tags....once when I had Mono when I was near 30, and a grad student at a large university. The walk from the parking lot to the school would tire me out for the day....handicap lot let me actually get work done...that lasted about 3 months. If you looked at me, you would not see a problem....but it was there.

More recently, at 48-50, I was trying to function while undergoing cancer treatment....I could work about 1/2 time if I did not have to walk far....or I could be on full time disability. I did get one person question my use of the spot at whole foods....I shut them up, by saying I would really prefer not to have the Handicap parking, and not have cancer.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 07:04     Subject: mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:I really can't believe the number of threads on here about handicapped parking. Why is this the hill that people want to die on?

I have a handicapped parking tag. IT'S REALLY NOT THAT GREAT. It doesn't make my life bliss and perfection. I'm not shooting rainbows out of my ass constantly because of it. What the hell is the big deal?


Because you get to park close to the store, and they have to park further away. And if that's not a big deal, I don't know what is!

(I'm not being sincere. I'm sorry, PP.)
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 04:54     Subject: mute & handicap parking
I really can't believe the number of threads on here about handicapped parking. Why is this the hill that people want to die on?

I have a handicapped parking tag. IT'S REALLY NOT THAT GREAT. It doesn't make my life bliss and perfection. I'm not shooting rainbows out of my ass constantly because of it. What the hell is the big deal?
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 01:59     Subject: Re:mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:You realize that the PDF's for each state re online and I can read them, right? Here they are and there re lots of reasons: http://amonymifoundation.org/uploads/NA_Approval_Form_Scan.pdf


Your link is not to any state official pdf handicap parking forms. Here is Virginia's: https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/webdoc/pdf/med10.pdf Here is DC's: http://dmv.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dmv/publication/attachments/medform.pdf

Many states are actively changing their qualifications. You need to go to the official sites to get up to date qualifications.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 01:49     Subject: Re:mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What you said is inaccurate. In VA that is only one of nine standard reasons, and there is space for other special conditions. In DC there are five listed reasons and a doctor can sign off on others.


Virginia's is a rare case, only two states including Virginia will have qualifications dealing with mental issues. About half have legally blind as one and only a handful will have hearing loss. DC has two ways of qualifying, in person or with a signed physician’s certification. In person requires missing lower extremity or use of motorized wheelchair. The physician’s certification only has 4 permanent listed reasons and a temporary one. All those deal with mobility impairment with one being respiratory.

The federal guidelines, Uniform System For Parking For Persons With Disabilities, which all states have reciprocity agreements to follow, only have mobility, respiratory, and cardiac qualifications.

All the mobility related qualifications and the respiratory/cardiac qualifications have an underlying limited ability to walk aspect. Most of these qualifications do not specifically define limited or severely limited walking. The only qualification that defines the degree of limitation is the "cannot walk 200 feet" qualification. Some states, like Illinois will explicitly tie the 200 feet with the other qualifications. Other states having the 200 feet qualification, which is most states, have an implicit connection between the 200 feet and the other qualifications.


You realize that the PDF's for each state re online and I can read them, right? Here they are and there re lots of reasons: http://amonymifoundation.org/uploads/NA_Approval_Form_Scan.pdf
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 01:39     Subject: Re:mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:What you said is inaccurate. In VA that is only one of nine standard reasons, and there is space for other special conditions. In DC there are five listed reasons and a doctor can sign off on others.


Virginia's is a rare case, only two states including Virginia will have qualifications dealing with mental issues. About half have legally blind as one and only a handful will have hearing loss. DC has two ways of qualifying, in person or with a signed physician’s certification. In person requires missing lower extremity or use of motorized wheelchair. The physician’s certification only has 4 permanent listed reasons and a temporary one. All those deal with mobility impairment with one being respiratory.

The federal guidelines, Uniform System For Parking For Persons With Disabilities, which all states have reciprocity agreements to follow, only have mobility, respiratory, and cardiac qualifications.

All the mobility related qualifications and the respiratory/cardiac qualifications have an underlying limited ability to walk aspect. Most of these qualifications do not specifically define limited or severely limited walking. The only qualification that defines the degree of limitation is the "cannot walk 200 feet" qualification. Some states, like Illinois will explicitly tie the 200 feet with the other qualifications. Other states having the 200 feet qualification, which is most states, have an implicit connection between the 200 feet and the other qualifications.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2014 00:59     Subject: Re:mute & handicap parking
Anonymous wrote:To qualify for disabled parking one's walking ability must be severely limited. So much so that they cannot walk 200 feet. I don't think those claiming to have invisible disabilities realize how restrictive a requirement severely limited is.

The average walking speed of a human is 3 miles per hour or 264 feet per minute. If you have a normal gait with no visible signs of impairment you can walk 200 feet in 45 seconds. So anyone claiming they have an invisible illness where there are no visible signs of impaired walking are saying they cannot walk 45 seconds.


What you said is inaccurate. In VA that is only one of nine standard reasons, and there is space for other special conditions. In DC there are five listed reasons and a doctor can sign off on others.