Anonymous wrote:

The simple answer is that it is very difficult to get rid of a tenured teacher unless some misbehavior is suspected. I think a lot has to do with the teacher's relationship with the principal. We have a lousy teacher in our ES but she survives, and there have been complaints about her teaching levied for about 8 years. You'd have to pay me lots to teach in MCPS, and frankly, I am unimpressed with 2.0 and the new grading.

This is bad but why is everyone focusing on getting rid of the teachers? The principals, area superintendents, curriculum office staff, planning office and superintendent are the level of positions that should be held accountable and someone should be fired for all the failures. The teachers are not responsible for 2.0 or the new grading system. The teachers are not responsible for Algebra 2.0. The teachers were not the ones who let Joynes stay in the system.

Yes, there are some bad teachers but many teachers are just as fed up with MCPS.

How about teachers who:

*lose kids' assignments
*fail to grade kids' work
*enter NOTHING in Edline all quarter and then input 3-4 grades, all bad, with no explanation - and then cannot find the work when asked about it
*can't find a student's work so gives him 100%
*can't find a student's work so gives him a zero
*does not control the classroom at all such that it is mayhem all the time

I know a teacher like this. Some of us have been riding the administration about it for YEARS (multiple kids from same family have had the teacher). And they are "working on it."

Seriously?

15:12 here. I like most of our teachers, and they have to work too hard to make 2.0 work, and some just can't. If they weren't well organized before 2.0, that lack of organization can kill implementation of 2.0. Plus, 2.0 does not work for kids that are in the middle of the pack, at least in my view as an elementary school parent. MCPS has convoluted the common core process far too much. My kid (and her teacher) are very frustrated.

I was one of those parents that was willing to wait and see how 2.0 worked out for my kids. 2 years in, I can say it is a failure for my kids.

Bottom line is still that it is hard to get rid of a tenured teacher in MCPS because they need to be put into at least a one year review cycle first, which is hard to do without the principal's recommendation to do so, and then they are mentored and peer reviewed for that whole year before they can be referred to the board that can decide to terminate them.

Anonymous wrote:The simple answer is that it is very difficult to get rid of a tenured teacher unless some misbehavior is suspected. I think a lot has to do with the teacher's relationship with the principal. We have a lousy teacher in our ES but she survives, and there have been complaints about her teaching levied for about 8 years. You'd have to pay me lots to teach in MCPS, and frankly, I am unimpressed with 2.0 and the new grading.

A teacher of 35 years said to a girl in front of a class of 30+ students, "How can your mother let you out of the house looking like that. You look like a hooker."

Just one of her more famous quotes this year.

The simple answer is that it is very difficult to get rid of a tenured teacher unless some misbehavior is suspected. I think a lot has to do with the teacher's relationship with the principal. We have a lousy teacher in our ES but she survives, and there have been complaints about her teaching levied for about 8 years. You'd have to pay me lots to teach in MCPS, and frankly, I am unimpressed with 2.0 and the new grading.

This is bad but why is everyone focusing on getting rid of the teachers? The principals, area superintendents, curriculum office staff, planning office and superintendent are the level of positions that should be held accountable and someone should be fired for all the failures. The teachers are not responsible for 2.0 or the new grading system. The teachers are not responsible for Algebra 2.0. The teachers were not the ones who let Joynes stay in the system.

Yes, there are some bad teachers but many teachers are just as fed up with MCPS.

The simple answer is that it is very difficult to get rid of a tenured teacher unless some misbehavior is suspected. I think a lot has to do with the teacher's relationship with the principal. We have a lousy teacher in our ES but she survives, and there have been complaints about her teaching levied for about 8 years. You'd have to pay me lots to teach in MCPS, and frankly, I am unimpressed with 2.0 and the new grading.

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Anonymous wrote:Central office staff is usually nicer than the school front office staff. But they rarely have to deal with ridiculous parent behavior so I'm not surprised.

Nice attitude. This is what I'm talking about.

Except I don't work in either central office or the front office of a school. I think you get the attitude you deserve.

Anonymous wrote:Central office staff is usually nicer than the school front office staff. But they rarely have to deal with ridiculous parent behavior so I'm not surprised.

Nice attitude. This is what I'm talking about.

Come on - write in proper English is you are going to criticize a teacher.

Gotta love typos from the grammer police!

Anonymous wrote:Why you be axing me what school that teacher be at?

Come on - write in proper English is you are going to criticize a teacher.

I'm writing in Standard American English, thanks. What's more, I'm actually praising the teachers at my child's school, not criticizing them. And finally, I'm not a native speaker of African-American Vernacular English, and you aren't either.

Why you be axing me what school that teacher be at?

Come on - write in proper English is you are going to criticize a teacher.

MCPS always wants to blame the teachers but its the curriculum and planning offices that need to go. There needs to be accountability at this level.

In local schools, its the principal level that needs to have less job security. For the Joynes case, the principal should be fired as well as the area superintendent. Their actions let a predator continue on despite parent protests.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They technically do - they run out the good teachers with poor administration and not treating them well and keep the crappy ones.

Which school are you at? There are lots of good teachers at my child's school.

Seriously?

Yes, seriously. Would you prefer it if I said, "At which school are you?", because some 17th-century English guy decided that you shouldn't end sentences with prepositions in English because Cicero didn't do it in Latin?

http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/11/grammar-myths-prepositions/

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Anonymous wrote:They technically do - they run out the good teachers with poor administration and not treating them well and keep the crappy ones.

Which school are you at? There are lots of good teachers at my child's school.

Seriously?

Anonymous wrote:My DS - and us - had a terrible experience with a teacher this past year - found out many, many others had similarly bad experiences - for many years prior and this year. Met with principal - she said "I understand your concerns, we have been working with that teacher for 8 years to improve upon things." 8 years! So to answer your question, it seems that no, at least teachers are not fired! And +1 that office staff are pretty much never fired, no matter their attitude!

Yes.

Takoma Park MS?

Anonymous wrote:They technically do - they run out the good teachers with poor administration and not treating them well and keep the crappy ones.

Which school are you at? There are lots of good teachers at my child's school.