Anonymous
Post 06/10/2014 08:04     Subject: Re:Kids are snarky too

Neither of the two examples the OP dredged up in 2014 seem very serious to me. I wonder how the OP will react if/when she has to deal with real bullying some day.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2014 07:03     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:Some of that might be sports culture and not an AAP thing. Kids are very aware of what "team" you are from, even at a young age.


Yes, just as they're very aware of what class everybody's in. It's amazing how parents love to deny that their AAP kids could be bullying others.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2014 02:14     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I reported a few months ago that I attended an Odyssey of the Mind awards ceremony and when South Lakes High school won an award, the Indian kids from TJ who sat in front of me remarked "is that a high school?" and then laughed.

Well today, I was at a youth athletic event and one of the kids had on a loud tie dyed "Haycock Elementary" t shirt. One kid made fun of him and said he actually goes to Lemon Road now.

Parents got to have some influence on this self perceived elitist behavior.



I could see the second example being not mean. If a man was with the Cowboys and then was with the Redskins, and he wore his old Cowboys shirt, it would be a little funny to say, "Uh, you are actually with the Redskins now." I don't see your example meaning that the child was making fun of him as in his education was downgraded somehow.


OP here...the tone of the kid's voice and the laugh was actually in a demeaning way.


To me, it sounds like you're looking for examples and you'll find them or, probably more accurately, will read into things until you do.


Please. Whether you think I was looking for examples or whatever, nothing was made up.

When you have a bunch of kids together and one kid tells all the other kids "hey, look at this guy....." and yelling out loud, it catches your attention. Don't try to make excuses when none can be made.


I don't see these actions as mean even if you accept as true the regular sized kid talking about a bigger kid or your comment above. It truly sounds like a kid commenting about a child wearing a shirt from a school he doesn't attend anymore and it struck him as ironic like the Redskins/Cowboy example. Don't get me wrong, I know there can be an elitist mentality with some kids, but I still think you are looking to find and assign fault.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 23:04     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you have better understood traditional bullying when a big kid makes fun of a smaller, nerdy one? Do you really think there is a difference?


It was a regular sized kid making fun of a bigger kid.

So for you this is the case where size does matter?
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 22:57     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I reported a few months ago that I attended an Odyssey of the Mind awards ceremony and when South Lakes High school won an award, the Indian kids from TJ who sat in front of me remarked "is that a high school?" and then laughed.

Well today, I was at a youth athletic event and one of the kids had on a loud tie dyed "Haycock Elementary" t shirt. One kid made fun of him and said he actually goes to Lemon Road now.

Parents got to have some influence on this self perceived elitist behavior.



I could see the second example being not mean. If a man was with the Cowboys and then was with the Redskins, and he wore his old Cowboys shirt, it would be a little funny to say, "Uh, you are actually with the Redskins now." I don't see your example meaning that the child was making fun of him as in his education was downgraded somehow.


OP here...the tone of the kid's voice and the laugh was actually in a demeaning way.

Would you have better understood traditional bullying when a big kid makes fun of a smaller, nerdy one? Do you really think there is a difference?


It was a regular sized kid making fun of a bigger kid.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 22:56     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I reported a few months ago that I attended an Odyssey of the Mind awards ceremony and when South Lakes High school won an award, the Indian kids from TJ who sat in front of me remarked "is that a high school?" and then laughed.

Well today, I was at a youth athletic event and one of the kids had on a loud tie dyed "Haycock Elementary" t shirt. One kid made fun of him and said he actually goes to Lemon Road now.

Parents got to have some influence on this self perceived elitist behavior.



I could see the second example being not mean. If a man was with the Cowboys and then was with the Redskins, and he wore his old Cowboys shirt, it would be a little funny to say, "Uh, you are actually with the Redskins now." I don't see your example meaning that the child was making fun of him as in his education was downgraded somehow.


OP here...the tone of the kid's voice and the laugh was actually in a demeaning way.


To me, it sounds like you're looking for examples and you'll find them or, probably more accurately, will read into things until you do.


Please. Whether you think I was looking for examples or whatever, nothing was made up.

When you have a bunch of kids together and one kid tells all the other kids "hey, look at this guy....." and yelling out loud, it catches your attention. Don't try to make excuses when none can be made.


Sounds like you're making this up as you go along.


nah, you wish.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 22:51     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Some of that might be sports culture and not an AAP thing. Kids are very aware of what "team" you are from, even at a young age.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 22:47     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I reported a few months ago that I attended an Odyssey of the Mind awards ceremony and when South Lakes High school won an award, the Indian kids from TJ who sat in front of me remarked "is that a high school?" and then laughed.

Well today, I was at a youth athletic event and one of the kids had on a loud tie dyed "Haycock Elementary" t shirt. One kid made fun of him and said he actually goes to Lemon Road now.

Parents got to have some influence on this self perceived elitist behavior.



I could see the second example being not mean. If a man was with the Cowboys and then was with the Redskins, and he wore his old Cowboys shirt, it would be a little funny to say, "Uh, you are actually with the Redskins now." I don't see your example meaning that the child was making fun of him as in his education was downgraded somehow.


OP here...the tone of the kid's voice and the laugh was actually in a demeaning way.

Would you have better understood traditional bullying when a big kid makes fun of a smaller, nerdy one? Do you really think there is a difference?
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 22:44     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I reported a few months ago that I attended an Odyssey of the Mind awards ceremony and when South Lakes High school won an award, the Indian kids from TJ who sat in front of me remarked "is that a high school?" and then laughed.

Well today, I was at a youth athletic event and one of the kids had on a loud tie dyed "Haycock Elementary" t shirt. One kid made fun of him and said he actually goes to Lemon Road now.

Parents got to have some influence on this self perceived elitist behavior.



I could see the second example being not mean. If a man was with the Cowboys and then was with the Redskins, and he wore his old Cowboys shirt, it would be a little funny to say, "Uh, you are actually with the Redskins now." I don't see your example meaning that the child was making fun of him as in his education was downgraded somehow.


OP here...the tone of the kid's voice and the laugh was actually in a demeaning way.


To me, it sounds like you're looking for examples and you'll find them or, probably more accurately, will read into things until you do.


Please. Whether you think I was looking for examples or whatever, nothing was made up.

When you have a bunch of kids together and one kid tells all the other kids "hey, look at this guy....." and yelling out loud, it catches your attention. Don't try to make excuses when none can be made.


Sounds like you're making this up as you go along.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 21:56     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I reported a few months ago that I attended an Odyssey of the Mind awards ceremony and when South Lakes High school won an award, the Indian kids from TJ who sat in front of me remarked "is that a high school?" and then laughed.

Well today, I was at a youth athletic event and one of the kids had on a loud tie dyed "Haycock Elementary" t shirt. One kid made fun of him and said he actually goes to Lemon Road now.

Parents got to have some influence on this self perceived elitist behavior.



I could see the second example being not mean. If a man was with the Cowboys and then was with the Redskins, and he wore his old Cowboys shirt, it would be a little funny to say, "Uh, you are actually with the Redskins now." I don't see your example meaning that the child was making fun of him as in his education was downgraded somehow.


OP here...the tone of the kid's voice and the laugh was actually in a demeaning way.


To me, it sounds like you're looking for examples and you'll find them or, probably more accurately, will read into things until you do.


Please. Whether you think I was looking for examples or whatever, nothing was made up.

When you have a bunch of kids together and one kid tells all the other kids "hey, look at this guy....." and yelling out loud, it catches your attention. Don't try to make excuses when none can be made.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 21:54     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I reported a few months ago that I attended an Odyssey of the Mind awards ceremony and when South Lakes High school won an award, the Indian kids from TJ who sat in front of me remarked "is that a high school?" and then laughed.

Well today, I was at a youth athletic event and one of the kids had on a loud tie dyed "Haycock Elementary" t shirt. One kid made fun of him and said he actually goes to Lemon Road now.

Parents got to have some influence on this self perceived elitist behavior.



I could see the second example being not mean. If a man was with the Cowboys and then was with the Redskins, and he wore his old Cowboys shirt, it would be a little funny to say, "Uh, you are actually with the Redskins now." I don't see your example meaning that the child was making fun of him as in his education was downgraded somehow.


OP here...the tone of the kid's voice and the laugh was actually in a demeaning way.


Why was the kid wearing a Haycock shirt during a "youth athletic event"? Wouldn't the kids have uniforms?


Tryouts...not a game.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 21:19     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:OP ~ Northern Virginia. It's toxic and nauseating.


OP: I know exactly what you mean. Would love to move somewhere not too far out, where schools are "normal" and this AAP absurdity doesn't exist. Do you know of a place? Am I dreaming?
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 20:12     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I reported a few months ago that I attended an Odyssey of the Mind awards ceremony and when South Lakes High school won an award, the Indian kids from TJ who sat in front of me remarked "is that a high school?" and then laughed.

Well today, I was at a youth athletic event and one of the kids had on a loud tie dyed "Haycock Elementary" t shirt. One kid made fun of him and said he actually goes to Lemon Road now.

Parents got to have some influence on this self perceived elitist behavior.



I could see the second example being not mean. If a man was with the Cowboys and then was with the Redskins, and he wore his old Cowboys shirt, it would be a little funny to say, "Uh, you are actually with the Redskins now." I don't see your example meaning that the child was making fun of him as in his education was downgraded somehow.


OP here...the tone of the kid's voice and the laugh was actually in a demeaning way.


To me, it sounds like you're looking for examples and you'll find them or, probably more accurately, will read into things until you do.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 17:54     Subject: Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:OP ~ Northern Virginia. It's toxic and nauseating.


Anonymous
Post 06/09/2014 17:34     Subject: Re:Kids are snarky too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First situation sounds like a put-down. Second situation sounds like an observation.


I guess it depends on the tone. From my perspective, when my DS left his base school for the AAP center, I gave away all the t-shirts from his base school. I didn't want to deal with anyone asking why he was still wearing them. At the time I told myself I was overthinking it, but maybe not.


Maybe with the World Cup coming the kids could emulate the soccer players and start trading t-shirts from different schools at the end of academic competitions.


The kids who compete in the First robotics competitions exchange buttons. They have round pinback buttons made with their logos and every team gives them away.

My kid has a drawerful.