Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MS sprays a permethrin-based pesticide, right? The EPA says that it is “Likely to be Carcinogenic to Humans” by the oral route."

http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/factsheets/permethrin_fs.htm

OP here, thanks good to know. I won't eat them. I'll just let the rabbits have them.

Anyone know the status of the new treatment for Mosquitos that is being done in Africa? It's part of some big project Bill Gates is doing. It differs in that it effects only Mosquitos and without the harmful effects to people r the environment. Some different type of mechanism is in place. Wondering if this is coming here or if there are any new alternatives to getting rid of them. I've tried every natural remedy discussed with poor results.

Poor rabbits!

Why are you bothering with a veggie garden if you're not going to eat any of it?

Anonymous wrote:No you can't wash it off. They use a fixing agent to keep the pesticide from washing off. If you can find out what the agent is, you may be able to use a solvent to remove it from you veggies.

Oh stop the bullshit. Of course you can wash off...it also breaks down naturally over time (otherwise you wouldn't have to spray every couple of weeks.)

MS doesn't spray our veggie garden anyway. Not part of their typical routine.

No you can't wash it off. They use a fixing agent to keep the pesticide from washing off. If you can find out what the agent is, you may be able to use a solvent to remove it from you veggies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/store-without-bees_n_5500380.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0161813X02000311?via%3Dihub
2002 study – "Our studies have documented low-dose effects of permethrin, doses below one-one thousandth of a lethal dose for a mouse, with effects on those brain pathways [that are] involved in Parkinson's Disease [...] We have found effects consistent with a pre-parkinsonsian condition, but not yet full-blown parkinsonism." 

Well I hate cats! So that's good right?

Permethrin acts as a neurotoxin, slowing down the nervous system through binding to sodium channels. This action is negatively correlated to temperature, thus, in general, showing more acute effects on cold-blooded animals (insects, fish, frogs, etc.) over warm-blooded animals (mammals and birds):

Permethrin is extremely toxic to fish and aquatic life in general, so extreme care must be taken when using products containing permethrin near water sources.
Permethrin is also highly toxic to cats, and flea and tick-repellent formulas intended and labeled for (the more resistant) dogs may contain permethrin and cause feline permethrin toxicosis in cats.[12]
Very high doses will have tangible neurotoxic effects on mammals and birds, including human beings.
Permethrin is listed as a "restricted use" substance by the United States Environmental Protection Agency[13] due to its high toxicity to aquatic organisms.[14]

Due to high toxicity for aquatic life, permethrin and permethrin-contaminated water should be properly disposed. Permethrin is quite stable, having a half life of 51–71 days in an aqueous environment exposed to light. It is also highly persistent in soil.[15]

Anonymous wrote:
MS sprays a permethrin-based pesticide, right? The EPA says that it is “Likely to be Carcinogenic to Humans” by the oral route."

http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/factsheets/permethrin_fs.htm



Actually your link shows a potential mild carcinogenic affect...like peanut butter, or strawberries, or lots of other things. It is approved for mass use in agricultural settings, so most of your regular produce already has it. We use MS, have a thriving veggie garden, see plenty of fireflies and bees, but don't get eaten alive by the mosquitos.

It's a neurotoxin.

Anonymous



You can ask them not to spray specific areas.

They use a fogger. It get everywhere that's why it works.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MS sprays a permethrin-based pesticide, right? The EPA says that it is “Likely to be Carcinogenic to Humans” by the oral route."

http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/factsheets/permethrin_fs.htm

Actually your link shows a potential mild carcinogenic affect...like peanut butter, or strawberries, or lots of other things. It is approved for mass use in agricultural settings, so most of your regular produce already has it. We use MS, have a thriving veggie garden, see plenty of fireflies and bees, but don't get eaten alive by the mosquitos.

Permethrin toxicity data show that the compound is highly toxic to honeybees, as well as other beneficial insects.

http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/factsheets/permethrin_fs.htm

Anonymous wrote:MS sprays a permethrin-based pesticide, right? The EPA says that it is “Likely to be Carcinogenic to Humans” by the oral route."

http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/factsheets/permethrin_fs.htm

Actually your link shows a potential mild carcinogenic affect...like peanut butter, or strawberries, or lots of other things. It is approved for mass use in agricultural settings, so most of your regular produce already has it. We use MS, have a thriving veggie garden, see plenty of fireflies and bees, but don't get eaten alive by the mosquitos.

Anonymous wrote:MS sprays a permethrin-based pesticide, right? The EPA says that it is “Likely to be Carcinogenic to Humans” by the oral route."

http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/factsheets/permethrin_fs.htm

Actually your link shows a potential mild carcinogenic affect...like peanut butter, or strawberries, or lots of other things. It is approved for mass use in agricultural settings, so most of your r

Sorry you have such a problem with mosquitos. Do you live near a wooded area? Do your neighbors have a lot of standing water?

OP here. Interesting about the sterile Mosquitos. The vague memory I have about the Africa project was to fight malaria but it was a spray that overwhelmed their sense of smell as opposed to trying to mask the target's smell (e.g., deet).

We got new gutters as well, and screens, but it doesn't thwart impact beyond our yard. We may have reduced the population by 50% but we still get several bites per day if we're in the yard unless we spray.

Thanks for the link. 3,000 species!