Anonymous
04/30/2014 08:41
Subject: Re:Kids talking about AAP
At DC's school it's much more prestigious to be on a travel or select team. The kids talk about sports more than they ever would about AAP, but even then they're pretty respectful. I doubt AAP will be discussed more than one day at any child's lunch table.
Anonymous
04/30/2014 08:15
Subject: Kids talking about AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh, they'll tell. And they'll tell their now (or future) siblings, "I'm the smart one". Yeah, good luck with that.
Parents often have no idea what they have put in place.
No they don't.
Maybe a tiny handful of poorly raised kids act like that, but it is a very small fraction of kids.
The kids that act like that are the kids who act that way whether it is sports or dance or any other activity with leveled placement.
My second grader has never mentioned it so I haven't told her anything yet. I am going to downplay it. (I wish it was a parent only orientation except for kids who will move schools, in which case I'd never have any discussions with my child at all).
Anonymous
04/30/2014 07:58
Subject: Kids talking about AAP
Anonymous wrote:Oh, they'll tell. And they'll tell their now (or future) siblings, "I'm the smart one". Yeah, good luck with that.
Parents often have no idea what they have put in place.
No they don't.
Maybe a tiny handful of poorly raised kids act like that, but it is a very small fraction of kids.
The kids that act like that are the kids who act that way whether it is sports or dance or any other activity with leveled placement.
Anonymous
04/30/2014 07:54
Subject: Kids talking about AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My daughter is not in AAP and I have definitely heard her friends tell her that they go to a school "for smart kids." They aren't really saying it in an obnoxious way--more matter of fact. I don't think it matters if you tell your kids not to talk about it because they will... and they will repeat whatever you told them.
Exactly. Last year, my DC came home in tears because all the kids at the lunch table had been asking who was "in" and who was "out". DC didn't even know what AAP was as we honestly didn't see how talking about it could be in any way healthy or productive. After I explained what it was, DC was super upset that more than half the class had gotten in, but not DC. Thanks, parents, for sharing that with your kids. Do you not know this is how the ridiculous hierarchy that is AAP gets started?
My child got in and doesn't know yet. I am so sorry this happened. I don't want talk about "in" or "Out" or a perception of smarter or not.
Parent of older AAP kids here. I'm also very sorry this happened. If I have one piece of advice for parents on this thread, it's to not draw any conclusions about the children based on whether they they got in or not. Kids develop at different rates, and being precocious is not necessarily a sign of long term intellectual superiority. In fact, there are a lot of studies that show a pattern of reversion to the mean in IQ over time (which given the strict definition of IQ, basically means that some of the faster kids slow down and the slower ones speed up).
I've run a number of extracurricular activities and also volunteered in the classroom over the years and time after time, I've run into kids who weren't in AAP but were outstanding performers, as well as the reverse. We will be in high school shortly and I expect honors and AP to be the great equalizers.
And there are plenty of kids not in AAP who would do just fine there and perhaps if a WISC were done on them, it would be determined the are more apt than someone else who is actually in AAP.
Absolutely. There just isn't enough difference between AAP and Gen Ed kids to make separating them worthwhile. It causes massive resentment academically, socially, and economically (the latter referring to the special busing AAP kids receive).
Anonymous
04/30/2014 03:52
Subject: Kids talking about AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My daughter is not in AAP and I have definitely heard her friends tell her that they go to a school "for smart kids." They aren't really saying it in an obnoxious way--more matter of fact. I don't think it matters if you tell your kids not to talk about it because they will... and they will repeat whatever you told them.
Exactly. Last year, my DC came home in tears because all the kids at the lunch table had been asking who was "in" and who was "out". DC didn't even know what AAP was as we honestly didn't see how talking about it could be in any way healthy or productive. After I explained what it was, DC was super upset that more than half the class had gotten in, but not DC. Thanks, parents, for sharing that with your kids. Do you not know this is how the ridiculous hierarchy that is AAP gets started?
My child got in and doesn't know yet. I am so sorry this happened. I don't want talk about "in" or "Out" or a perception of smarter or not.
Parent of older AAP kids here. I'm also very sorry this happened. If I have one piece of advice for parents on this thread, it's to not draw any conclusions about the children based on whether they they got in or not. Kids develop at different rates, and being precocious is not necessarily a sign of long term intellectual superiority. In fact, there are a lot of studies that show a pattern of reversion to the mean in IQ over time (which given the strict definition of IQ, basically means that some of the faster kids slow down and the slower ones speed up).
I've run a number of extracurricular activities and also volunteered in the classroom over the years and time after time, I've run into kids who weren't in AAP but were outstanding performers, as well as the reverse. We will be in high school shortly and I expect honors and AP to be the great equalizers.
And there are plenty of kids not in AAP who would do just fine there and perhaps if a WISC were done on them, it would be determined the are more apt than someone else who is actually in AAP.
Anonymous
04/29/2014 22:20
Subject: Kids talking about AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My daughter is not in AAP and I have definitely heard her friends tell her that they go to a school "for smart kids." They aren't really saying it in an obnoxious way--more matter of fact. I don't think it matters if you tell your kids not to talk about it because they will... and they will repeat whatever you told them.
Exactly. Last year, my DC came home in tears because all the kids at the lunch table had been asking who was "in" and who was "out". DC didn't even know what AAP was as we honestly didn't see how talking about it could be in any way healthy or productive. After I explained what it was, DC was super upset that more than half the class had gotten in, but not DC. Thanks, parents, for sharing that with your kids. Do you not know this is how the ridiculous hierarchy that is AAP gets started?
My child got in and doesn't know yet. I am so sorry this happened. I don't want talk about "in" or "Out" or a perception of smarter or not.
Parent of older AAP kids here. I'm also very sorry this happened. If I have one piece of advice for parents on this thread, it's to not draw any conclusions about the children based on whether they they got in or not. Kids develop at different rates, and being precocious is not necessarily a sign of long term intellectual superiority. In fact, there are a lot of studies that show a pattern of reversion to the mean in IQ over time (which given the strict definition of IQ, basically means that some of the faster kids slow down and the slower ones speed up).
I've run a number of extracurricular activities and also volunteered in the classroom over the years and time after time, I've run into kids who weren't in AAP but were outstanding performers, as well as the reverse. We will be in high school shortly and I expect honors and AP to be the great equalizers.
+1000
You are so very right. I have high schoolers and this has played out time and time again. AAP really isn't indicative of any long-term advantages and high school truly is the great equalizer. So wise not to draw conclusions about kids so early on.
Anonymous
04/29/2014 22:09
Subject: Re:Kids talking about AAP
it's 16.7% overall get some *some* level 4 services. It only approaches 50% at the center schools where kids are centralized.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL... Half? Math isn't your thing is it?Anonymous wrote:I told DC since close to half the kids historically have been accepted to AAP - knowing the parents, they will tell their kid. I asked my kid not to talk about it but to be aware.
Not the PP, but it was about half at our school as well. Almost 50% of second graders last year and the year before were admitted to AAP. See anything wrong with this picture?
Please tell me that your school has a LLIV or is a center. With those numbers kind of makes you wonder why anyone would have to be bussed to another school to find "intellectual peers."
Anonymous
04/29/2014 22:07
Subject: Kids talking about AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My daughter is not in AAP and I have definitely heard her friends tell her that they go to a school "for smart kids." They aren't really saying it in an obnoxious way--more matter of fact. I don't think it matters if you tell your kids not to talk about it because they will... and they will repeat whatever you told them.
Exactly. Last year, my DC came home in tears because all the kids at the lunch table had been asking who was "in" and who was "out". DC didn't even know what AAP was as we honestly didn't see how talking about it could be in any way healthy or productive. After I explained what it was, DC was super upset that more than half the class had gotten in, but not DC. Thanks, parents, for sharing that with your kids. Do you not know this is how the ridiculous hierarchy that is AAP gets started?
My child got in and doesn't know yet. I am so sorry this happened. I don't want talk about "in" or "Out" or a perception of smarter or not.
Parent of older AAP kids here. I'm also very sorry this happened. If I have one piece of advice for parents on this thread, it's to not draw any conclusions about the children based on whether they they got in or not. Kids develop at different rates, and being precocious is not necessarily a sign of long term intellectual superiority. In fact, there are a lot of studies that show a pattern of reversion to the mean in IQ over time (which given the strict definition of IQ, basically means that some of the faster kids slow down and the slower ones speed up).
I've run a number of extracurricular activities and also volunteered in the classroom over the years and time after time, I've run into kids who weren't in AAP but were outstanding performers, as well as the reverse. We will be in high school shortly and I expect honors and AP to be the great equalizers.
Anonymous
04/29/2014 21:40
Subject: Kids talking about AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My daughter is not in AAP and I have definitely heard her friends tell her that they go to a school "for smart kids." They aren't really saying it in an obnoxious way--more matter of fact. I don't think it matters if you tell your kids not to talk about it because they will... and they will repeat whatever you told them.
Exactly. Last year, my DC came home in tears because all the kids at the lunch table had been asking who was "in" and who was "out". DC didn't even know what AAP was as we honestly didn't see how talking about it could be in any way healthy or productive. After I explained what it was, DC was super upset that more than half the class had gotten in, but not DC. Thanks, parents, for sharing that with your kids. Do you not know this is how the ridiculous hierarchy that is AAP gets started?
My child got in and doesn't know yet. I am so sorry this happened. I don't want talk about "in" or "Out" or a perception of smarter or not.
Anonymous
04/29/2014 21:39
Subject: Re:Kids talking about AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL... Half? Math isn't your thing is it?Anonymous wrote:I told DC since close to half the kids historically have been accepted to AAP - knowing the parents, they will tell their kid. I asked my kid not to talk about it but to be aware.
Not the PP, but it was about half at our school as well. Almost 50% of second graders last year and the year before were admitted to AAP. See anything wrong with this picture?
Please tell me that your school has a LLIV or is a center. With those numbers kind of makes you wonder why anyone would have to be bussed to another school to find "intellectual peers."
Anonymous
04/29/2014 21:36
Subject: Kids talking about AAP
Anonymous wrote:My daughter is not in AAP and I have definitely heard her friends tell her that they go to a school "for smart kids." They aren't really saying it in an obnoxious way--more matter of fact. I don't think it matters if you tell your kids not to talk about it because they will... and they will repeat whatever you told them.
Exactly. Last year, my DC came home in tears because all the kids at the lunch table had been asking who was "in" and who was "out". DC didn't even know what AAP was as we honestly didn't see how talking about it could be in any way healthy or productive. After I explained what it was, DC was super upset that more than half the class had gotten in, but not DC. Thanks, parents, for sharing that with your kids. Do you not know this is how the ridiculous hierarchy that is AAP gets started?
Anonymous
04/29/2014 21:30
Subject: Re:Kids talking about AAP
Anonymous wrote:LOL... Half? Math isn't your thing is it?Anonymous wrote:I told DC since close to half the kids historically have been accepted to AAP - knowing the parents, they will tell their kid. I asked my kid not to talk about it but to be aware.
Not the PP, but it was about half at our school as well. Almost 50% of second graders last year and the year before were admitted to AAP. See anything wrong with this picture?
Anonymous
04/29/2014 20:38
Subject: Kids talking about AAP
My daughter is not in AAP and I have definitely heard her friends tell her that they go to a school "for smart kids." They aren't really saying it in an obnoxious way--more matter of fact. I don't think it matters if you tell your kids not to talk about it because they will... and they will repeat whatever you told them.
Anonymous
04/29/2014 20:25
Subject: Re:Kids talking about AAP
I haven't told my kid yet. I think it's odd so many of you have, like it's this huge, exciting thing.
Anonymous
04/29/2014 20:22
Subject: Re:Kids talking about AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL... Half? Math isn't your thing is it?Anonymous wrote:I told DC since close to half the kids historically have been accepted to AAP - knowing the parents, they will tell their kid. I asked my kid not to talk about it but to be aware.
In some schools, this is true.
40-45% is close to half..