Anonymous
Post 04/12/2014 09:06     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

My step mom sounds a lot like your mom. Just accept that she has to complain about something. That's just how some people are.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 23:45     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

OP - Do you expect to inherit from your mother?
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 23:41     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

Anonymous wrote:This thread is bizarre.

So old people who have money aren't supposed to have anything to complain about?? Do you think money solves all problems?


She has 10 mil and watched her daughter lose house because of job loss. I wouldn't want to listen, either.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 20:27     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

This thread is bizarre.

So old people who have money aren't supposed to have anything to complain about?? Do you think money solves all problems?
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 20:23     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My mother, admittedly, grew up poor, the only child of an alcoholic father. But she married my father, who became a wealthy doctor, and from the age of 25 was a SAHM and has never had a job since. Since my father passed away 10 years ago, she is in perfect health in her mid-60s, has around $10 million in her own name….and does nothing but complain about how hard her life is!

Meanwhile I became a teacher, married a social worker, had two kids. We are happy, but I do struggle with trying to get everything done, care for my kids, work full time, and all on not much money.

I understand I made my own choices, and I know she is probably lonely, but I just have less and less patience with hearing how rough my mom has it. Does anyone have any advice for helping me feel more generous towards her? I have upended my whole life several times to help her out – stayed with her for 6 weeks during my first maternity leave to sell her house and get her moved into a condo, for example – and she literally hasn’t come to visit me once during a tough past two years since my youngest was born, husband lost job, and we had to downsize houses. She is just always “so overwhelmed” to do anything to help, and I am getting resentful (and don't like feeling this way).


Oh please. She has been well off for half a century.
I wouldn't underestimate the toll that growing up poor with an alcoholic father has taken on your mother's mental health. Things may seem easy when you look at her life on paper, but she likely has a lot of turmoil underneath that could manifest in anxiety and/or depression, which is likely the cause of every "little" thing seeming like such a hardship for her. Her childhood poverty has also likely caused her to hoard the millions she has now out of fear of giving it away and being w/o again. Not rational for those who haven't lived it but completely rational for her.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 16:49     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My mother, admittedly, grew up poor, the only child of an alcoholic father. But she married my father, who became a wealthy doctor, and from the age of 25 was a SAHM and has never had a job since. Since my father passed away 10 years ago, she is in perfect health in her mid-60s, has around $10 million in her own name….and does nothing but complain about how hard her life is!

Meanwhile I became a teacher, married a social worker, had two kids. We are happy, but I do struggle with trying to get everything done, care for my kids, work full time, and all on not much money.

I understand I made my own choices, and I know she is probably lonely, but I just have less and less patience with hearing how rough my mom has it. Does anyone have any advice for helping me feel more generous towards her? I have upended my whole life several times to help her out – stayed with her for 6 weeks during my first maternity leave to sell her house and get her moved into a condo, for example – and she literally hasn’t come to visit me once during a tough past two years since my youngest was born, husband lost job, and we had to downsize houses. She is just always “so overwhelmed” to do anything to help, and I am getting resentful (and don't like feeling this way).


I wouldn't underestimate the toll that growing up poor with an alcoholic father has taken on your mother's mental health. Things may seem easy when you look at her life on paper, but she likely has a lot of turmoil underneath that could manifest in anxiety and/or depression, which is likely the cause of every "little" thing seeming like such a hardship for her. Her childhood poverty has also likely caused her to hoard the millions she has now out of fear of giving it away and being w/o again. Not rational for those who haven't lived it but completely rational for her.


+10,000,000
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 16:37     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

Anonymous wrote:My mother, admittedly, grew up poor, the only child of an alcoholic father. But she married my father, who became a wealthy doctor, and from the age of 25 was a SAHM and has never had a job since. Since my father passed away 10 years ago, she is in perfect health in her mid-60s, has around $10 million in her own name….and does nothing but complain about how hard her life is!

Meanwhile I became a teacher, married a social worker, had two kids. We are happy, but I do struggle with trying to get everything done, care for my kids, work full time, and all on not much money.

I understand I made my own choices, and I know she is probably lonely, but I just have less and less patience with hearing how rough my mom has it. Does anyone have any advice for helping me feel more generous towards her? I have upended my whole life several times to help her out – stayed with her for 6 weeks during my first maternity leave to sell her house and get her moved into a condo, for example – and she literally hasn’t come to visit me once during a tough past two years since my youngest was born, husband lost job, and we had to downsize houses. She is just always “so overwhelmed” to do anything to help, and I am getting resentful (and don't like feeling this way).


I wouldn't underestimate the toll that growing up poor with an alcoholic father has taken on your mother's mental health. Things may seem easy when you look at her life on paper, but she likely has a lot of turmoil underneath that could manifest in anxiety and/or depression, which is likely the cause of every "little" thing seeming like such a hardship for her. Her childhood poverty has also likely caused her to hoard the millions she has now out of fear of giving it away and being w/o again. Not rational for those who haven't lived it but completely rational for her.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 16:28     Subject: Re:Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

If my mother had 10 million dollars she would share it with me. If I had $10 million dollars I would share it with my mother and children. I don't understand parents that hoard money from their children. Growing up poor my family was still very generous with what little they had.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 16:18     Subject: Re:Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

Anonymous wrote:No advice, just commiseration. You don't sound like you resent her wealth, just her complaining. You must be nicer than me! With my mom, I resent her flaunting all the nice things she spends money on while I struggle. If I'm ever wealthy, I will definitely help my kids out. Why sit on $10 million and be miserable, when you could give just a fraction of that to your kids and probably create some good memories? (I'm thinking family vacations or something like that).


+1
I am totally not getting this. I don't understand the lack of desire to help where one could with little effort, let alone not help one's own children. Not to mention, she would actually benefit from doing so. Perhaps she would feel less lonely and miserable, both because giving feels good and because it often gets reciprocated in some form.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 15:45     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

I would have to tell her that it was an insult to my father's memory for her to be complaining as if my dad left her desitute in the poor house. That would raise my hackles.

Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 09:49     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

I have some very wealthy relatives who are skinflints. Won't give me or DH a penny. They always give stingy gifts to us for holidays, yet they are worth millions, live in beautiful homes, go on great vacations, etc. etc. I do resent their complaining. I don't want their money, but I do not like that they think I have any sympathy for their troubles when the things they complain about are problems that I'd love to have. ("The Sub-Zero isn't freezing as well as it used to! The guy who usually gets the boat ready has RETIRED! Now I have to find someone new!") I not only can't relate, I can't understand why they are so completely insensitive to my problems that they would bring up such asinine first-world problems to me when I'm dealing with serious financial issues, struggling with job loss, downsizing, etc. I'd love to have a Viking with a burner that clicks on and off ("No one can get that to work right. So annoying!"). I'm lucky I have an oven that works at all!

OP, I'm just commiserating. I try to stay calm and listen as long as I'm able to. When I've had enough, I tell them I need to take care of some things and I leave. I am not brave enough to tell them their complaints are aggravating to me. They are older and these are their problems! I don't think they could even begin to relate to what I'm dealing with, so they have nothing to offer me, except money, which they are NEVER going to offer. Relatives are like that.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 09:32     Subject: Re:Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

No advice, just commiseration. You don't sound like you resent her wealth, just her complaining. You must be nicer than me! With my mom, I resent her flaunting all the nice things she spends money on while I struggle. If I'm ever wealthy, I will definitely help my kids out. Why sit on $10 million and be miserable, when you could give just a fraction of that to your kids and probably create some good memories? (I'm thinking family vacations or something like that).
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 03:56     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

Can you bring her back to the big picture? If she's complaining about the cashier at the grocery store or whatever, can you say "Mom, in the scheme of things you've got it pretty good. Health is good, you can please yourself, [etc.]. Let's talk about how your garden is doing [or whatever you want to change the topic to]." Repeat act of not really engaging the complaint and trying to change the subject. And don't be afraid to just get off the phone if she keeps carping. Is your mom a bad listener when you tell her your problems? Don't forget that many people become more "me-centric" as they get older and their world narrows. Have you flat out asked her to come visit you and see the grandkids? How far away does she live? Do you have any siblings?

Sorry, OP. It sounds like a difficult situation.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2014 23:02     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

This will probably be my mother if ever my father passes away before her, God forbid.

She was never a great multitasker (could even have ADHD or executive functioning issues), and has chosen to live a very quiet life for the past... 30 years.

All this does not excuse the whining!!!
My sympathies, OP, being in straightened circumstances with a well-off whiner is frustrating.

When your mother complains too much, bring her back to reality by telling her what real people have to deal with.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2014 22:51     Subject: Healthy, wealthy mother does nothing but complain how hard her life is

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that she does have health issues in her mid 60s.

At the very least, she probably has some aches and pains.

Plus, her mental capacity could be diminishing.

She helped you out when u were growing up. Now she is old. You shouldn't be expecting her help.


She is old, but she also has the money, which, though it is hers and she can do whatever she pleases with it, appears she didn't earn herself. I don't understand why she is not helping OP financially. They downsizes homes and she is sitting on 10 mil? I would be resentful for sure.