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Anonymous wrote:Be glad it's just fish that doesn't taste good to you anymore. Nothing tastes particularly good to me anymore - fish, fruits, veg, cheese, 95% of meat... I used to enjoy eating and it all just tastes off.

why is this? something is wrong.

The easiest answer to this is to stop buying mass-produced food and start getting everything in dealers' markets. The downside means no blueberries and tomatoes in January, higher prices than aldi/Walmart/Costco, and fewer cuts of meat. And convenience -- you have to plan and can't just type in a peapod order on your phone at 11pm. You have to drive to a farmers or fish market during its limited hours.

The tradeoff is food that tastes like real food. The person who said up thread that it is not worth roasting a whole chicken anymore needs to find a small Pennsylvania farmer at a farmers market in her zip code. It'll restore her faith.

So you think the easiest answer is only purchasing more expensive and less accessible food? I've heard that bandied about before, and my answer is the same now as it was then: no. There is no reason that supermarket food must always be bottom of the barrel, corporate owned crap. I can get on board with price bearing more of a realistic relationship to actual costs and respecting employees at all levels of production, and I can get on board with more seasonal food, but suggesting we all go to markets is absurd. For one thing, in NOVA where I live they're once a week, if not suspended for the winter. For another, there's no way they could accommodate all the people who currently shop at grocery stores. There is no easy answer.

+1

I read recently (I know, I know -- source? Maybe the Atlantic?) that this is definitely the case with meats. If consumers started purchasing only free-range, humanely-raised, grass-fed meats en masse, there would be no feasible way to keep up with demand.

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And with some exception, never buy frozen fish, or "previously frozen."

Freezing kills parasites and is required even for sushi-grade fish.
I prefer fish in the frozen case that stayed frozen the whole time from ship to the store.

LOL you do not know much about the seafood market or fish.

Try the fish market in SW DC. And concur that salmon has had a long commute to get to the DC area and isn't so tasty. But, rockfish, bluefish, etc are often fabulous.

I have been buying fish from omaha steaks, and it tastes very good.

Join/start a local fish cooperative. I think there is one in the Takoma park area already. Similar to this:

http://www.walking-fish.org

Anonymous wrote: And with some exception, never buy frozen fish, or "previously frozen."

Freezing kills parasites and is required even for sushi-grade fish.
I prefer fish in the frozen case that stayed frozen the whole time from ship to the store.

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Anonymous wrote:Be glad it's just fish that doesn't taste good to you anymore. Nothing tastes particularly good to me anymore - fish, fruits, veg, cheese, 95% of meat... I used to enjoy eating and it all just tastes off.

why is this? something is wrong.

The easiest answer to this is to stop buying mass-produced food and start getting everything in dealers' markets. The downside means no blueberries and tomatoes in January, higher prices than aldi/Walmart/Costco, and fewer cuts of meat. And convenience -- you have to plan and can't just type in a peapod order on your phone at 11pm. You have to drive to a farmers or fish market during its limited hours.

The tradeoff is food that tastes like real food. The person who said up thread that it is not worth roasting a whole chicken anymore needs to find a small Pennsylvania farmer at a farmers market in her zip code. It'll restore her faith.

So you think the easiest answer is only purchasing more expensive and less accessible food? I've heard that bandied about before, and my answer is the same now as it was then: no. There is no reason that supermarket food must always be bottom of the barrel, corporate owned crap. I can get on board with price bearing more of a realistic relationship to actual costs and respecting employees at all levels of production, and I can get on board with more seasonal food, but suggesting we all go to markets is absurd. For one thing, in NOVA where I live they're once a week, if not suspended for the winter. For another, there's no way they could accommodate all the people who currently shop at grocery stores. There is no easy answer.

You can find good seafood at many places. A & H in Bethesda has lots of interesting fish and they are very knowledgeable as well. Whole Foods does too. One of the things you need to do is branch out -- get away from salmon to be sure, even wild salmon more often than not is wild in name only. And with some exception, never buy frozen fish, or "previously frozen." One exception is plaice at Whole Foods, quite interesting and different. A good place like A & H or Whole Foods will be able to tell you where the fish came from, and how long ago. But at least around here, it seems you will not find decent fish at Safeway, Giant, Costco etc., which also means it is often significantly more expensive than meat.

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Anonymous wrote:Be glad it's just fish that doesn't taste good to you anymore. Nothing tastes particularly good to me anymore - fish, fruits, veg, cheese, 95% of meat... I used to enjoy eating and it all just tastes off.

why is this? something is wrong.

The easiest answer to this is to stop buying mass-produced food and start getting everything in dealers' markets. The downside means no blueberries and tomatoes in January, higher prices than aldi/Walmart/Costco, and fewer cuts of meat. And convenience -- you have to plan and can't just type in a peapod order on your phone at 11pm. You have to drive to a farmers or fish market during its limited hours.

The tradeoff is food that tastes like real food. The person who said up thread that it is not worth roasting a whole chicken anymore needs to find a small Pennsylvania farmer at a farmers market in her zip code. It'll restore her faith.

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Anonymous wrote:Sustainably farmed fish are perfectly fine. Even some of the tilapia from latin america is okay, and very tasty. The Monterey Guide is good to have handy.

http://www.seafoodwatch.org/cr/seafoodwatch/web/sfw_regional.aspx

Unfortunately farmed fish do have more pesticides in them b/c of higher concentrations in their habitat vs. fresh caught.

It's a no win situation we're not taking care of our planet.

There is also petroleum and dye in the feed. I remember the first time I cooked salmon and the butter in the pan had an orange tint in it. Dye.

A lot of farmed and wild salmon is dyed to look more pink. Very common.

You are a moron. Wild salmon is not dyed.

Anonymous wrote:Sustainably farmed fish are perfectly fine. Even some of the tilapia from latin america is okay, and very tasty. The Monterey Guide is good to have handy.

http://www.seafoodwatch.org/cr/seafoodwatch/web/sfw_regional.aspx

The op is telling you it is not tasty and she didn't say a word about sustainability.

Anonymous wrote:The absolute best seafood can be purchased from the Bethesda Central Farmers Market from Vernon's Seafood. Once you have it, you can't go back. I live in DC and first found Vernon at a small farmers market that closed up. I followed him to Bethesda even though it's not convenient. I believe Vernon used to provide some fish to Kincaids and Balducci's in DC.

Also, for beef and chicken, Walnut Hill Farms is fantastic. Liberty Delight Farms has amazing pork.

I find the prices to be comparable to Whole Foods.

http://m.centralfarmmarkets.com/

This is the OP. Thank you, I will check it out!

The absolute best seafood can be purchased from the Bethesda Central Farmers Market from Vernon's Seafood. Once you have it, you can't go back. I live in DC and first found Vernon at a small farmers market that closed up. I followed him to Bethesda even though it's not convenient. I believe Vernon used to provide some fish to Kincaids and Balducci's in DC.

Also, for beef and chicken, Walnut Hill Farms is fantastic. Liberty Delight Farms has amazing pork.

I find the prices to be comparable to Whole Foods.

http://m.centralfarmmarkets.com/

White bread tastes funny too.

It's overfishing, primarily from Japanese fish factory boars. They are literally sucking up everything edible in the ocean. What the Japanese failed to accomplish during WWII, they are doing on the seas.