Here is an interview with the writer that I found interesting http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/true-detective-creator-nic-pizzolatto-looks-back-on-season-1/2

and here is one about Audrey's Red Herring: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/10/true-detective-s-red-herring-actress-erin-moriarty-who-plays-marty-s-daughter-tells-all.html

I like that not everything is wrapped up perfectly, not all questions answered- that to me feels authentic.

I got the impression that the secret society had stopped operating and that older men involved in the cover-up were either dead or in a position of power to maintain the cover-up. It seems as if Errol continued on with the fantasy and continued the rituals on his own or where he could inlist followers (Ledeux, etc...) and continue killing.

Sad that this story is over, and I have been thinking about it a lot since last night- but I think I am satisfied with it! We'll see, probably go home and watch it again tonight

Anonymous wrote:A bunch of those questions were answered!

Really? Can you help me with answers then? I added some explanation in brackets, to make sure you understand my open questions.

1. Whatever happened to Cohle's obsession with continuing the search even after Reggie LeDoux's death? [Meaning: Why is he no longer obsessed even though he knows other related killers are out there?]
2. What was the connection between LeDoux and Childress? [I get that there's a relationship Hart & Cohle uncovered with the auto shop guy in episode 7, but why are the LeDoux brothers capturing and holding children in connection with Errol Childress?]
3. Are neither of them at all curious about why the Tuttle's housekeeper freaked out about Carcosa? [What does she know about Errol's bunker?]
4. And who was powerful enough to convince the robber in prison to commit suicide after he'd mentioned Carcosa to Cohle?
5. What are the bird-traps stick figures for? [I understand the "soul catcher" history, but why were Errol and LeDoux setting them everywhere?]
6. Why do Hart & Cohle suddenly not care about who is on the videotape that's been making everyone who watches it cry out in terror?
7. Who on the police force was changing all the missing persons reports to "reported in error" for 20+ years? [I get that the elder Childress did at least some of them, but he clearly did not have the juice to do them all, especially once Errol tied him up in the shed. And while we're at it, why did Errol tie him up?]

I have been a huge fan of True Detective, but for most of the final episode, felt as if the writing was "off" and things were rushed-- like Hart's sudden, out-of-nowhere insight about the green paint on the house being a way to find the killer. And then conveniently, that hunch actually did lead them to the guy. It just felt like the series ran out of time and they had to wrap it up as much as they could, leaving many loose ends.

However-- I can forgive all of that for the last 5 minutes of the show. I loved the ending! What a brilliant final line: "the light's winning." I loved that!

One of the things that annoyed me was that Childress was clearly not a Mensa member. Catching him was catching the killer but not the orchestrater and that left a huge hole in the ending.

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Anonymous wrote:I was disappointed. Too many loose ends and inconsistencies. I don't need them all answered, and can accept some unanswered questions, but it's frustrating the show spent seven episodes setting up all the hard questions and intrigue, only to have Hart & Cohle say in episode eight, "Ahh, screw it, it was just some nutter in the woods and now we got him."

Whatever happened to Cohle's obsession with continuing the search even after Reggie LeDoux's death? What was the connection between LeDoux and Childress? Are neither of them at all curious about why the Tuttle's housekeeper freaked out about Carcosa? And who was powerful enough to convince the robber in prison to commit suicide after he'd mentioned Carcosa to Cohle? What are the bird-traps stick figures for? Why do Hart & Cohle suddenly not care about who is on the videotape that's been making everyone who watches it cry out in terror? Who on the police force was changing all the missing persons reports to "reported in error" for 20+ years?

It's almost as if HBO told them they need to wrap it up in one episode, when they originally though they'd have three more episodes to unwind the questions. Feels very forced.

I loved the show and the character studies, but ITA. I know it's not supposed to be the typical cop show, wrapping everything up with a bow, but still.

This cult did everything secretly but it (or some rogue member) publicly displayed two of its victims. Why? And why the two adult women when clearly most of the victims were kids?

Agree, a bunch of these were answered. The connection between LeDoux and Childress definitely was (Childress talked about Ledoux being a disciple or acolyte or something). Re the connections to Tuttle and the maid, etc., I think they are leaving some of that unsolved on purpose to follow up on later. And it was clearly one of Tuttle's people in the tape with the girl or it wouldn't have been in Tuttle's house. But that stuff is all kind of unresolved (as Marty and Russ acknowledged at the end).

There is no later. Season 2 is a new cast and story.

Did Childress mention Ledoux by name? If so I missed it.

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Anonymous wrote:I was disappointed. Too many loose ends and inconsistencies. I don't need them all answered, and can accept some unanswered questions, but it's frustrating the show spent seven episodes setting up all the hard questions and intrigue, only to have Hart & Cohle say in episode eight, "Ahh, screw it, it was just some nutter in the woods and now we got him."

Whatever happened to Cohle's obsession with continuing the search even after Reggie LeDoux's death? What was the connection between LeDoux and Childress? Are neither of them at all curious about why the Tuttle's housekeeper freaked out about Carcosa? And who was powerful enough to convince the robber in prison to commit suicide after he'd mentioned Carcosa to Cohle? What are the bird-traps stick figures for? Why do Hart & Cohle suddenly not care about who is on the videotape that's been making everyone who watches it cry out in terror? Who on the police force was changing all the missing persons reports to "reported in error" for 20+ years?

It's almost as if HBO told them they need to wrap it up in one episode, when they originally though they'd have three more episodes to unwind the questions. Feels very forced.

I loved the show and the character studies, but ITA. I know it's not supposed to be the typical cop show, wrapping everything up with a bow, but still.

This cult did everything secretly but it (or some rogue member) publicly displayed two of its victims. Why? And why the two adult women when clearly most of the victims were kids?

Agree, a bunch of these were answered. The connection between LeDoux and Childress definitely was (Childress talked about Ledoux being a disciple or acolyte or something). Re the connections to Tuttle and the maid, etc., I think they are leaving some of that unsolved on purpose to follow up on later. And it was clearly one of Tuttle's people in the tape with the girl or it wouldn't have been in Tuttle's house. But that stuff is all kind of unresolved (as Marty and Russ acknowledged at the end).

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Cohle and Hart couldn't get a cell signal and the serial killer didn't have a phone so how did the cops know to swoop in especially because both detectives had gone "off the grid" so to speak. What did I miss?

My understanding is that the killer had one non working phone, but Marty realized that everyone must have a phone (he states that everyone has a phone) and threatens the killer's half sister/lover into telling him where the working phone is.

Oh! yes you're right! what stuck in my mind was the non-working landline phone not thinking that the sister told him where the working one was.

On a different subject, Cohle's story of his near-death experience was riveting. I was sad for him because you KNOW he wanted to let go but something pulled him back into that ugly world he lives in. That show does no favors for the state of LA. Just like Low Winter Sun does no favors for Detroit. shows the nasty underbelly of both places.

Yes, so agree about the near-death scene. Matthew McC deserves an Emmy just for that scene alone.

This whole season was amazing but I will say that the first scene of the finale episode, with the lawnmower man having sex with the lover/sister and saying "tell me about grandpa again" or whatever was so ridiculous that I could not stop laughing. I found it way over the top.

Re this show doing no favors for LA, give me a break, do you think this is "real" LA? No more so than the Wire is really Baltimore or House of Cards is really DC. This is totally fiction.

Anonymous wrote:What was the deal with Hart's daughter drawing the sex pictures? What about when he walks into his kids' room to find them displaying their dolls in a rape-like situation?
Did I miss something?

Nope, you didn't miss anything. It wasn't addressed.

What was the deal with Hart's daughter drawing the sex pictures? What about when he walks into his kids' room to find them displaying their dolls in a rape-like situation?
Did I miss something?

Anonymous wrote:I was disappointed. Too many loose ends and inconsistencies. I don't need them all answered, and can accept some unanswered questions, but it's frustrating the show spent seven episodes setting up all the hard questions and intrigue, only to have Hart & Cohle say in episode eight, "Ahh, screw it, it was just some nutter in the woods and now we got him."

Whatever happened to Cohle's obsession with continuing the search even after Reggie LeDoux's death? What was the connection between LeDoux and Childress? Are neither of them at all curious about why the Tuttle's housekeeper freaked out about Carcosa? And who was powerful enough to convince the robber in prison to commit suicide after he'd mentioned Carcosa to Cohle? What are the bird-traps stick figures for? Why do Hart & Cohle suddenly not care about who is on the videotape that's been making everyone who watches it cry out in terror? Who on the police force was changing all the missing persons reports to "reported in error" for 20+ years?

It's almost as if HBO told them they need to wrap it up in one episode, when they originally though they'd have three more episodes to unwind the questions. Feels very forced.

A bunch of those questions were answered!

Anonymous wrote:I was disappointed. Too many loose ends and inconsistencies. I don't need them all answered, and can accept some unanswered questions, but it's frustrating the show spent seven episodes setting up all the hard questions and intrigue, only to have Hart & Cohle say in episode eight, "Ahh, screw it, it was just some nutter in the woods and now we got him."

Whatever happened to Cohle's obsession with continuing the search even after Reggie LeDoux's death? What was the connection between LeDoux and Childress? Are neither of them at all curious about why the Tuttle's housekeeper freaked out about Carcosa? And who was powerful enough to convince the robber in prison to commit suicide after he'd mentioned Carcosa to Cohle? What are the bird-traps stick figures for? Why do Hart & Cohle suddenly not care about who is on the videotape that's been making everyone who watches it cry out in terror? Who on the police force was changing all the missing persons reports to "reported in error" for 20+ years?

It's almost as if HBO told them they need to wrap it up in one episode, when they originally though they'd have three more episodes to unwind the questions. Feels very forced.

I loved the show and the character studies, but ITA. I know it's not supposed to be the typical cop show, wrapping everything up with a bow, but still.

This cult did everything secretly but it (or some rogue member) publicly displayed two of its victims. Why? And why the two adult women when clearly most of the victims were kids?

14:36 again. I'm totally with you 14:28. If this is like "The Wire," where each season uses different characters and situations to build further on the foundation of the previous season, then the ending would make a lot more sense.

I was disappointed. Too many loose ends and inconsistencies. I don't need them all answered, and can accept some unanswered questions, but it's frustrating the show spent seven episodes setting up all the hard questions and intrigue, only to have Hart & Cohle say in episode eight, "Ahh, screw it, it was just some nutter in the woods and now we got him."

Whatever happened to Cohle's obsession with continuing the search even after Reggie LeDoux's death? What was the connection between LeDoux and Childress? Are neither of them at all curious about why the Tuttle's housekeeper freaked out about Carcosa? And who was powerful enough to convince the robber in prison to commit suicide after he'd mentioned Carcosa to Cohle? What are the bird-traps stick figures for? Why do Hart & Cohle suddenly not care about who is on the videotape that's been making everyone who watches it cry out in terror? Who on the police force was changing all the missing persons reports to "reported in error" for 20+ years?

It's almost as if HBO told them they need to wrap it up in one episode, when they originally though they'd have three more episodes to unwind the questions. Feels very forced.

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Anonymous wrote:in an earlier episode cohle told hart he had to watch the whole video to see if anyone took off their masks and they didn't.

Really? I totally missed that, but that would answer my earlier question. For some reason I thought you could see Tuttle in the tape, but I must have just assumed that because the tape was found in his house. But I guess they couldn't prove that.

Also, to the person that said that there would definitely be a second season because there were so many unanswered questions, this story is over. Next season will be an entirely different story and cast. What we got in these 8 episodes is all we'll get in terms of answers for Rust and Marty.

The ending was too philisophical. I think it would've been better if there was an opening to the next season - like pursing the political side - like the last scene could've been the camera panning out with Tuttle sitting at his desk with his feet up laughing to himself - under his dress sock a small tattoo of that weird swirly mark...It would leave the audience wondering what was next, that not everybody was caught, etc.

Anonymous wrote:in an earlier episode cohle told hart he had to watch the whole video to see if anyone took off their masks and they didn't.

Really? I totally missed that, but that would answer my earlier question. For some reason I thought you could see Tuttle in the tape, but I must have just assumed that because the tape was found in his house. But I guess they couldn't prove that.

Also, to the person that said that there would definitely be a second season because there were so many unanswered questions, this story is over. Next season will be an entirely different story and cast. What we got in these 8 episodes is all we'll get in terms of answers for Rust and Marty.