Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transportation to Latin and BASIS is just as convenient for Maury kids as for Brent kids.

Eastern Market bus to Latin is 4 blocks from Brent. How many blocks from Maury? At least 14. How many blocks is Maury from Latin's Union Station/Logan School bus? 12-ish? And would you rather haveyour middle schooler take the Penn Ave bus down to BASIS? Or X2?

Many Hill BASIS students take the 30 buses down Pennsylvania to school. School starts at 8:30. My DC leaves the house a couple minutes before 8 am and has never been tardy.

The high SES Maury cohort is only starting to hit 4th grade or so now. So these paths are still being figured out.

Anonymous wrote:I think PP who points to commuter patterns has a point. Not only that, for IB Maury parents, many of whom live around the North-Lincoln Park area (yes, some IB for Stuart, too), neither Union Station, nor H Street, nor Rosedale, nor Stadium Armory, are fear-inducing, black holes (anymore). Not only do Brent neighbors typically not drive through there to work, many probably still entertain notions of bullet-riddled houses, which alas at this point sell for up to a million. Check it out some time.

     
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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transportation to Latin and BASIS is just as convenient for Maury kids as for Brent kids.

Eastern Market bus to Latin is 4 blocks from Brent. How many blocks from Maury? At least 14. How many blocks is Maury from Latin's Union Station/Logan School bus? 12-ish? And would you rather haveyour middle schooler take the Penn Ave bus down to BASIS? Or X2?

The D6 bus runs all but door-to-door for many of us in NE to go to BASIS. And it takes less than a half hour, unlike to haul to Latin, all parts included. And it's only 10 minutes to drive in a pinch.

whats in the water around Maury that makes some of the parents so judgemental of others?

Anonymous wrote:I think PP who points to commuter patterns has a point. Not only that, for IB Maury parents, many of whom live around the North-Lincoln Park area (yes, some IB for Stuart, too), neither Union Station, nor H Street, nor Rosedale, nor Stadium Armory, are fear-inducing, black holes (anymore). Not only do Brent neighbors typically not drive through there to work, many probably still entertain notions of bullet-riddled houses, which alas at this point sell for up to a million. Check it out some time.

Actually a good number of Brent families in 3 -5 grades live in those areas.

The fact is, there are hardly ANY high-SES kids at Hine and Maury can talk a good game all they want but when those kids get to 6th, where are they going to go? They'll play the lottery -they'll try to charter or get into SH, they'll even commute to Hardy. They won't send those kids over there to be a 2% crowd unless something drastic is changed. Test-in, etc.

They're going to follow the handful-and-growing high SES kids over to SH before they go to Hine, and then their sibs will follow. This comment about "following a friend or two" is huge. It's a very different dynamic in a large-boundary middle school to "turn it around" than a tight-boundary ES so I'm tired of the Brent boosters saying "you gotta do the work" -- where is your middle-schooler Brent parent that lives in Hine boundaries? Ohhhh, right, Latin.

I read with kids at Brent in the late 90s. Once a week for years (lots of Hill staff did/do as part of Power Lunch). The school was not something to write home about and didn't attract high performing kids from across the city. It was sad, dark and depressing with kids very far behind in literacy. I stopped reading there in 2008. The change was drastic between when I started and then.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, your premise is wrong: We're "high SES" and our kids went to Maury, then Stuart-Hobson, not the only ones either. Several "high SES" parents have kids at Eliot-Hine, coming in from Maury. I think what you can say is, that Maury is possibly a little more political, politically agile, and willing to roll up their sleeves and get the work done. In fact, Maury has long attracted a high number of "high SES" families from around town. I've got a few blisters on my hands but our kids are thriving, possibly for all those reasons.

Or did you mean black?

I think this experiment is still on with Eliot Hine. But you are totally correct that both Maury and Brent have long attracted middle class and academically ambitious families from all over the city.

Anyone who thinks that Brent has been a longtime citywide mecca for high performing students is mistaken, if not delusional. What some have characterized as the "big flip" started in the 2005-2006 time period when IB students first began to attend in meaningful numbers for the new early childhood programs. At that time, Brent certainly had no deserved reputation as a top performing elementary school. Many OOB families, the majority of whom were AA, nevertheless had attended Brent and done well academically. I don't understand PP's bloviating comment about Maury parents (as opposed to Brent parents?) being "more . . . willing to roll up their sleeves and get the work done.". What exactly does this mean?

Then why don't you cut other people and their motives some slack, too. Race card is not necessary.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, your premise is wrong: We're "high SES" and our kids went to Maury, then Stuart-Hobson, not the only ones either. Several "high SES" parents have kids at Eliot-Hine, coming in from Maury. I think what you can say is, that Maury is possibly a little more political, politically agile, and willing to roll up their sleeves and get the work done. In fact, Maury has long attracted a high number of "high SES" families from around town. I've got a few blisters on my hands but our kids are thriving, possibly for all those reasons.

Or did you mean black?

Curious why you chose Stuart Hobson over Eliot Hine then for your kids? Too poor?

No, it boiled down to my kids following a friend or two. Very basic really. Working out great though.

Anonymous wrote:OP, your premise is wrong: We're "high SES" and our kids went to Maury, then Stuart-Hobson, not the only ones either. Several "high SES" parents have kids at Eliot-Hine, coming in from Maury. I think what you can say is, that Maury is possibly a little more political, politically agile, and willing to roll up their sleeves and get the work done. In fact, Maury has long attracted a high number of "high SES" families from around town. I've got a few blisters on my hands but our kids are thriving, possibly for all those reasons.

Or did you mean black?

Curious why you chose Stuart Hobson over Eliot Hine then for your kids? Too poor?