Anonymous wrote:Actually PP, thank you. I just realized that not only would very few women be surrogates, but it would be every likely that it isn't their choice. My guess is that most Indian surrogates are forced by their husbands or whomever to do so in order to make that person money.

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Anonymous wrote:Please, please, please don't anyone choose this option. The surrogates in India are treated horribly, the medical care is terrible...it's a very unethical type of third party reproduction (doing surrogacy in India - not surrogacy in general). Please, please do *valid* research before considering this!!

I did a ton of valid research and discovered that, as in the US, there are good and bad actors in this process. Don't paint everyone with a broad brush. You appear ethnophobic.

India is a country trying to change, but at its heart, no well off or self-respecting woman would ever be "allowed" to be a surrogate. Husbands own wives. Wives only have the husband's children. Before the husband she has a Father and brothers. Her whole family would disown her if she is a victim of rape, becomes pregnant out of wedlock, marries the wrong man, or has children of the wrong gender.

What part of the population is left undere that circumstance? Maybe untouchables (which India says no longer exist) or their equivalent of gypsies or a woman already disowned by her family. Really that is India.

That is not what is happening. You are simply wrong.

But, your point is...?

Sure I am. I only lived there and helped with an organization that takes in CHILDREN, girls, outcasted by their families for getting pregnant as a result of rape or incest. I know nothing of their modern society that won't acknowledge real issues. I made my point very clearly.

Agreed.

No, actually, you did not. You said no "self-respecting" woman would consider surrogacy and said that only women who are shamed in some way would do this. You accepted a framing of women that I don't. It was... patronizing.

That said, your experience in India exposed you to a certain side of life there - a very dark side that has colored your world view. That does not mean you know a thing about surrogacy in India. Are you also an expert in heart surgery because you once entered a hospital?

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Anonymous wrote:Please, please, please don't anyone choose this option. The surrogates in India are treated horribly, the medical care is terrible...it's a very unethical type of third party reproduction (doing surrogacy in India - not surrogacy in general). Please, please do *valid* research before considering this!!

I did a ton of valid research and discovered that, as in the US, there are good and bad actors in this process. Don't paint everyone with a broad brush. You appear ethnophobic.

India is a country trying to change, but at its heart, no well off or self-respecting woman would ever be "allowed" to be a surrogate. Husbands own wives. Wives only have the husband's children. Before the husband she has a Father and brothers. Her whole family would disown her if she is a victim of rape, becomes pregnant out of wedlock, marries the wrong man, or has children of the wrong gender.

What part of the population is left undere that circumstance? Maybe untouchables (which India says no longer exist) or their equivalent of gypsies or a woman already disowned by her family. Really that is India.

That is not what is happening. You are simply wrong.

But, your point is...?

Sure I am. I only lived there and helped with an organization that takes in CHILDREN, girls, outcasted by their families for getting pregnant as a result of rape or incest. I know nothing of their modern society that won't acknowledge real issues. I made my point very clearly.

Agreed.

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Anonymous wrote:Please, please, please don't anyone choose this option. The surrogates in India are treated horribly, the medical care is terrible...it's a very unethical type of third party reproduction (doing surrogacy in India - not surrogacy in general). Please, please do *valid* research before considering this!!

I did a ton of valid research and discovered that, as in the US, there are good and bad actors in this process. Don't paint everyone with a broad brush. You appear ethnophobic.

India is a country trying to change, but at its heart, no well off or self-respecting woman would ever be "allowed" to be a surrogate. Husbands own wives. Wives only have the husband's children. Before the husband she has a Father and brothers. Her whole family would disown her if she is a victim of rape, becomes pregnant out of wedlock, marries the wrong man, or has children of the wrong gender.

What part of the population is left undere that circumstance? Maybe untouchables (which India says no longer exist) or their equivalent of gypsies or a woman already disowned by her family. Really that is India.

That is not what is happening. You are simply wrong.

But, your point is...?

Sure I am. I only lived there and helped with an organization that takes in CHILDREN, girls, outcasted by their families for getting pregnant as a result of rape or incest. I know nothing of their modern society that won't acknowledge real issues. I made my point very clearly.

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Anonymous wrote:Please, please, please don't anyone choose this option. The surrogates in India are treated horribly, the medical care is terrible...it's a very unethical type of third party reproduction (doing surrogacy in India - not surrogacy in general). Please, please do *valid* research before considering this!!

I did a ton of valid research and discovered that, as in the US, there are good and bad actors in this process. Don't paint everyone with a broad brush. You appear ethnophobic.

India is a country trying to change, but at its heart, no well off or self-respecting woman would ever be "allowed" to be a surrogate. Husbands own wives. Wives only have the husband's children. Before the husband she has a Father and brothers. Her whole family would disown her if she is a victim of rape, becomes pregnant out of wedlock, marries the wrong man, or has children of the wrong gender.

What part of the population is left undere that circumstance? Maybe untouchables (which India says no longer exist) or their equivalent of gypsies or a woman already disowned by her family. Really that is India.

That is not what is happening. You are simply wrong.

But, your point is...?

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Anonymous wrote:Please, please, please don't anyone choose this option. The surrogates in India are treated horribly, the medical care is terrible...it's a very unethical type of third party reproduction (doing surrogacy in India - not surrogacy in general). Please, please do *valid* research before considering this!!

I did a ton of valid research and discovered that, as in the US, there are good and bad actors in this process. Don't paint everyone with a broad brush. You appear ethnophobic.

India is a country trying to change, but at its heart, no well off or self-respecting woman would ever be "allowed" to be a surrogate. Husbands own wives. Wives only have the husband's children. Before the husband she has a Father and brothers. Her whole family would disown her if she is a victim of rape, becomes pregnant out of wedlock, marries the wrong man, or has children of the wrong gender.

What part of the population is left undere that circumstance? Maybe untouchables (which India says no longer exist) or their equivalent of gypsies or a woman already disowned by her family. Really that is India.

That is not what is happening. You are simply wrong.

But, your point is...?

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Anonymous wrote:Please, please, please don't anyone choose this option. The surrogates in India are treated horribly, the medical care is terrible...it's a very unethical type of third party reproduction (doing surrogacy in India - not surrogacy in general). Please, please do *valid* research before considering this!!

I did a ton of valid research and discovered that, as in the US, there are good and bad actors in this process. Don't paint everyone with a broad brush. You appear ethnophobic.

India is a country trying to change, but at its heart, no well off or self-respecting woman would ever be "allowed" to be a surrogate. Husbands own wives. Wives only have the husband's children. Before the husband she has a Father and brothers. Her whole family would disown her if she is a victim of rape, becomes pregnant out of wedlock, marries the wrong man, or has children of the wrong gender.

What part of the population is left undere that circumstance? Maybe untouchables (which India says no longer exist) or their equivalent of gypsies or a woman already disowned by her family. Really that is India.

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Anonymous wrote:Please, please, please don't anyone choose this option. The surrogates in India are treated horribly, the medical care is terrible...it's a very unethical type of third party reproduction (doing surrogacy in India - not surrogacy in general). Please, please do *valid* research before considering this!!

I did a ton of valid research and discovered that, as in the US, there are good and bad actors in this process. Don't paint everyone with a broad brush. You appear ethnophobic.

Anonymous wrote:I posted it in the hope of getting answers to legal formalities rather than knowing how hopeless the situation in India is. I could not find info for the 2 cases I posted on US immigration related websites. Thanks anyway for your time.

Anonymous wrote:Please, please, please don't anyone choose this option. The surrogates in India are treated horribly, the medical care is terrible...it's a very unethical type of third party reproduction (doing surrogacy in India - not surrogacy in general). Please, please do *valid* research before considering this!!

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Anonymous wrote:Are you white or Indian?

I ask because I would be very distrustful of a situation that an Indian has an Indian baby, changes her mind and keeps the kid. It's probably slim given the culture, but still you'd have little recourse in the clogged up court system.

In addition, what if the mother gets (polio, measles, lepercy, bubonic plague, good poisoning) and the baby is born with defects or disability? Then what?

Or the opposite can and has happened. There was a story on NPR about a couple that opted for surrogacy in India, they split up in the 3rd trimester, divorced and the husband nor the wife wanted the kid after it was born.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you white or Indian?

I ask because I would be very distrustful of a situation that an Indian has an Indian baby, changes her mind and keeps the kid. It's probably slim given the culture, but still you'd have little recourse in the clogged up court system.

In addition, what if the mother gets (polio, measles, lepercy, bubonic plague, good poisoning) and the baby is born with defects or disability? Then what?

Or the opposite can and has happened. There was a story on NPR about a couple that opted for surrogacy in India, they split up in the 3rd trimester, divorced and the husband nor the wife wanted the kid after it was born.