Anonymous wrote:My 11 month old does.

child abuse

it's illegal

Anonymous wrote:Raw milk consumer here.

There is a bill to legalize cow shares, and thus the sale of raw milk, in MD
http://delmarvafarmer.com/publications/the-delmarva-farmer/beef-a-dairy/2447-greener-pastures-ahead-for-raw-milk-in-maryland

And here is something from the pro-raw milk group, the Weston A. Price foundation on how the CDC manipulates data to make raw milk look dangerous.
http://www.westonaprice.org/press/cdc-cherry-picks-data-to-make-case-against-raw-milk

This will never pass in Md. We are a nanny state.

Fetishizing milk is a new one. The general population would've gone crazy for homogenized and pasteurized milk back in the day.

My 11 month old does.

Raw milk consumer here.

There is a bill to legalize cow shares, and thus the sale of raw milk, in MD
http://delmarvafarmer.com/publications/the-delmarva-farmer/beef-a-dairy/2447-greener-pastures-ahead-for-raw-milk-in-maryland

And here is something from the pro-raw milk group, the Weston A. Price foundation on how the CDC manipulates data to make raw milk look dangerous.
http://www.westonaprice.org/press/cdc-cherry-picks-data-to-make-case-against-raw-milk

of course there are risks. estimate of 9 million people consume raw milk in US, and there have been 2 deaths attributed in 15 years and about 3K hospitalizations. seems fairly low risk to me.

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Anonymous wrote:You all sound like a bunch of little girls. You put all kinds of crap sugar in your bodies and your children's bodies and you worry about raw milk? Do you have any idea what is done to the cows that are milked for your Whole Foods and Giant milk?

We have a cow share with our neighbors and it's wonderful. First time my psoriasis has been clear in years.

And you sound like a sexist pig. If you read many threads on this board ever, you'd know that the general criticism lobbed at posters here is that they fail to give their kids any junk food at all, are way too controlling about junk, etc. I'm the poster whose parents grew up on farms, and, yes, I would worry about feeding my family raw milk. Here's a short explanation why someone - even little girls! - might looks at the risks and benefits of raw milk and conclude it isn't worth it for them. http://www.cdc.gov/features/rawmilk

Can't imagine in a million years why a .gov website might overstate the dangers of raw milk.

I am the PP whose grandparents own farms. I would never drink raw milk without being 100% confident of the source. However, suggesting raw milk is dangerous just because you read it on a government website is silly. All across this country people in more rural areas drink raw milk without a problem. Would I drink raw from a commercial dairy farm. Hell no. But from a clean, well-run family farm? Of course!

I don't drink raw milk, but lots of my friends do. The reason they feel it is safe is that raw milk (from healthy, grassfed cows in clean conditions) forms its own microbial environment where good bugs out compete bad bugs, and where salmonella and other nasties can't compete. One of the reasons there are salmonella and other outbreaks in pasturized milk is that by sterilizing the milk you kill all the good bugs that could keep the bad bugs in check, and so when someone's dirty hand accidentally touches the bottling machine...trouble. Its the same principle that allows for sour dough bread, saurkraut, and real pickles -good bugs out compete bad bugs. But I drink Trickling Springs milk when I can get to MOM to buy it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all sound like a bunch of little girls. You put all kinds of crap sugar in your bodies and your children's bodies and you worry about raw milk? Do you have any idea what is done to the cows that are milked for your Whole Foods and Giant milk?

We have a cow share with our neighbors and it's wonderful. First time my psoriasis has been clear in years.

And you sound like a sexist pig. If you read many threads on this board ever, you'd know that the general criticism lobbed at posters here is that they fail to give their kids any junk food at all, are way too controlling about junk, etc. I'm the poster whose parents grew up on farms, and, yes, I would worry about feeding my family raw milk. Here's a short explanation why someone - even little girls! - might looks at the risks and benefits of raw milk and conclude it isn't worth it for them. http://www.cdc.gov/features/rawmilk

Your grandparents sound like they have a dirty dairy farm. Yuck.

I grew up in the Shenandoah valley (on an ACTUAL farm) and it was very common to drink raw milk. You absolutely can be sure of your supply. Due to the fact that I live in NoVA now I do a cow share of raw milk. I've probably consumed no more than a gallon of pasteurized milk in my life, outside of baked goods. I even make my own raw milk cheese.

Anonymous wrote:You all sound like a bunch of little girls. You put all kinds of crap sugar in your bodies and your children's bodies and you worry about raw milk? Do you have any idea what is done to the cows that are milked for your Whole Foods and Giant milk?

We have a cow share with our neighbors and it's wonderful. First time my psoriasis has been clear in years.

And you sound like a sexist pig. If you read many threads on this board ever, you'd know that the general criticism lobbed at posters here is that they fail to give their kids any junk food at all, are way too controlling about junk, etc. I'm the poster whose parents grew up on farms, and, yes, I would worry about feeding my family raw milk. Here's a short explanation why someone - even little girls! - might looks at the risks and benefits of raw milk and conclude it isn't worth it for them. http://www.cdc.gov/features/rawmilk

You all sound like a bunch of little girls. You put all kinds of crap sugar in your bodies and your children's bodies and you worry about raw milk? Do you have any idea what is done to the cows that are milked for your Whole Foods and Giant milk?

We have a cow share with our neighbors and it's wonderful. First time my psoriasis has been clear in years.

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Anonymous wrote:Whole Foods and Roots sell cream-on-top milk in glass bottles. I think farmers are not allowed to sell raw milk in Maryland.

This just means it isn't homogenized.

Yes. Cream top milk isn't homoginized. But all milk sold in MD has to be pasteurized.

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Anonymous wrote:No way. It is not safe. And not legal in most states. We get our milk from South Mountain creamery.

It's perfectly safe if you know the source. I grew up spending every summer on my grandparents' (both sets) working farms. I drank plenty of raw milk. I wouldn't drink it from anyplace I wasn't 100% sure about. I don't really even like milk, but raw milk is yummy!

This is crazy. There is no way for you to know if there is bacteria that is harmful unless you actually test it.

What about Trickling Spring Creamery (sold at Yes Organic)? Is it as good as it gets for a store-shelf milk or, say, comparable to South Mountain Creamery?