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Anonymous wrote:The test scores at Wakefield are among the lowest in NoVa.

Yeah, 11 percent of AP test takers at Wakefield scored 5, compared to 13 percent at W-L and 14 percent at Yorktown. Downright shameful.

A large proportion of low-income or limited English speaking students can pull an average down without affecting the opportunities or performance of high-achieving kids. I get that it's easier to justify your racism by talking about "test scores." (Props to the person who mentioned affirmative action…at least you're being upfront about your bias.)

Thanks for posting this, I was just on the APS website looking for this exact information. Can you provide a link to these data?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/12/AP_Exam%20_Results_table3.pdf

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The test scores at Wakefield are among the lowest in NoVa.

Yeah, 11 percent of AP test takers at Wakefield scored 5, compared to 13 percent at W-L and 14 percent at Yorktown. Downright shameful.

A large proportion of low-income or limited English speaking students can pull an average down without affecting the opportunities or performance of high-achieving kids. I get that it's easier to justify your racism by talking about "test scores." (Props to the person who mentioned affirmative action…at least you're being upfront about your bias.)

Thanks for posting this, I was just on the APS website looking for this exact information. Can you provide a link to these data?

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Anonymous wrote:The recent Arlington Magazine article on 2013 APS college acceptances had 8 of 28 Wakefield applicants getting into UVA vs. 38 at Yorktown and 43 at W-L. The other figures are off as well. The school reported eight admissions to W&M, for example, not 35.

The other poster says she got information in 2013 from Naviance, but perhaps the Naviance data includes admissions over a multi-year period that is still considered relevant to current high school applicants. The Wakefield data is nowhere near as great as she made it sound.

Sorry.

acceptance does not equal admittance.

What? Of course acceptance is admittance. Acceptance means the student received an acceptance letter admitting them to the class of 20XX.

Do you mean acceptance does not equal matriculation? That is true, but I can't imagine why that is relevant to this discussion.

Anonymous wrote:The recent Arlington Magazine article on 2013 APS college acceptances had 8 of 28 Wakefield applicants getting into UVA vs. 38 at Yorktown and 43 at W-L. The other figures are off as well. The school reported eight admissions to W&M, for example, not 35.

The other poster says she got information in 2013 from Naviance, but perhaps the Naviance data includes admissions over a multi-year period that is still considered relevant to current high school applicants. The Wakefield data is nowhere near as great as she made it sound.

Sorry.

I don't have the magazine in front of me to check your numbers, but assuming your data are correct, you have left out some important info. If 8 of 28 Wakefield students got into UVA, that's an acceptance rate of 28.6%. Are you saying that the acceptance rates for W-L and Yorktown were significantly higher? I don't remember that being the case, but am happy to be corrected.

Let's also not forget that Wakefield is smaller than W-L and Yorktown, so all things equal will have fewer applicants to any college. (Yorktown has 1784 students, W-L has 1992, Wakefield has 1533.)

Anonymous wrote:The recent Arlington Magazine article on 2013 APS college acceptances had 8 of 28 Wakefield applicants getting into UVA vs. 38 at Yorktown and 43 at W-L. The other figures are off as well. The school reported eight admissions to W&M, for example, not 35.

The other poster says she got information in 2013 from Naviance, but perhaps the Naviance data includes admissions over a multi-year period that is still considered relevant to current high school applicants. The Wakefield data is nowhere near as great as she made it sound.

Sorry.

acceptance does not equal admittance.

The recent Arlington Magazine article on 2013 APS college acceptances had 8 of 28 Wakefield applicants getting into UVA vs. 38 at Yorktown and 43 at W-L. The other figures are off as well. The school reported eight admissions to W&M, for example, not 35.

The other poster says she got information in 2013 from Naviance, but perhaps the Naviance data includes admissions over a multi-year period that is still considered relevant to current high school applicants. The Wakefield data is nowhere near as great as she made it sound.

Sorry.

Anonymous wrote:The test scores at Wakefield are among the lowest in NoVa.

Yeah, 11 percent of AP test takers at Wakefield scored 5, compared to 13 percent at W-L and 14 percent at Yorktown. Downright shameful.

A large proportion of low-income or limited English speaking students can pull an average down without affecting the opportunities or performance of high-achieving kids. I get that it's easier to justify your racism by talking about "test scores." (Props to the person who mentioned affirmative action…at least you're being upfront about your bias.)

Anonymous wrote:I don't mean to shit on anyone's parade, but the acceptances at top universities from Wakefield (esp Ivies) most likely have a good deal to do with affirmative action. I saw it frequently in my Ffx county HS---kids with a full grade point lower and lower test scores getting acceptances --and often a scholarship to boot!

First of all, none of the Ivies and few of the top colleges give "scholarships," they give financial aid. That has nothing to do with grade point average or test scores but is dependent on the family's financial situation.

Second, the notion that Ivy League institutions are accepting "unqualified" students because of "affirmative action" is patently false. You don't think Princeton gets plenty of applications from non-white students with high scores and GPAs? Come on.

Third, your implication is that white students at Wakefield won't do as well in the college acceptance game. But (a) you have absolutely NO proof of that (are you privy to the racial stats behind that acceptance data?) and (b) you are apparently assuming the OP is white. Why is that?

Fourth, even if what you are implying is true, you are forgetting that there are students of color at Yorktown, W-L, and HB Woodlawn as well. How do you know that the college acceptance rates at those high schools aren't similarly "tainted" by affirmative action?

You may not mean to shit on anyone's parade, but you are talking out of your ass.

I don't mean to shit on anyone's parade, but the acceptances at top universities from Wakefield (esp Ivies) most likely have a good deal to do with affirmative action. I saw it frequently in my Ffx county HS---kids with a full grade point lower and lower test scores getting acceptances --and often a scholarship to boot!

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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield pyramids are considered one of the worst in Virginia.

Do they teach subject-verb agreement in the Yorktown pyramid?

Hahaha. Pp, you were so burned! (Yes, it was an intentional use of 6th grade vernacular. I figured pp could more easily relate.)

Best comeback yet!!

The test scores at Wakefield are among the lowest in NoVa.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield pyramids are considered one of the worst in Virginia.

OP, ignore these stupid posters. If you are an involved parent and expect your kids to go to college, they will do fine at Wakefield. It's a big school with a successful AP program. Naviance shows 2013 college acceptances as follows (note--this is a small subset of acceptances)

Bates
Bowdoin (3)
Brown
Berkeley
Cal Tech (2)
Columbia (5)
Cornell (2)
Dartmouth
Duke (4)
Georgetown (5)
Georgia Tech (3)
Harvard
Johns Hopkins (4)
MIT
Michigan (3)
Northwestern (2)
Oberlin (4)
U Penn (2)
Princeton (2)
Smith (2)
Stanford
Swarthmore
West Point
UVA (39)
William and Mary (35)
Williams
Yale (2)

I live in S. Arlington and have ZERO concerns about my kids' ability to be prepared for a top school, supported in getting into said school, and having a large peer group of kids who are also planning to go to competitive schools. It is just a NON ISSUE and I'm so tired of stupid DCUM trolls acting like Wakefield is the Black Hole of Calcutta.

There's not a large peer group of kids going to top schools from Wakefield. This is total rubbish.

there's 100 kids on that list. how's that total rubbish?

Well, no, there's not, because it's a list many of those acceptances of acceptances, not schools where students enrolled, so a much smaller subset of students is likely represented here. However, there are 39 kids who got into UVA. That's a much bigger peer group than I had when I was a top student at my high school, and I always felt plenty challenged/encouraged. To me, 39 seems like more than a critical mass.

Agreed. I went to a high school the same size as Wakefield and fewer then 10 kids went to selective colleges. This list is very impressive. Also, there are schools all over the country on this list (and more on the longer list), which is good--it's not like all kids stay in the VA/NC/MD area, or are only attractive to local schools.

Also, for the person who asked if the Harvard-accepted student was AA, thanks for validating 17:48. Cheers!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wakefield pyramids are considered one of the worst in Virginia.

OP, ignore these stupid posters. If you are an involved parent and expect your kids to go to college, they will do fine at Wakefield. It's a big school with a successful AP program. Naviance shows 2013 college acceptances as follows (note--this is a small subset of acceptances)

Bates
Bowdoin (3)
Brown
Berkeley
Cal Tech (2)
Columbia (5)
Cornell (2)
Dartmouth
Duke (4)
Georgetown (5)
Georgia Tech (3)
Harvard
Johns Hopkins (4)
MIT
Michigan (3)
Northwestern (2)
Oberlin (4)
U Penn (2)
Princeton (2)
Smith (2)
Stanford
Swarthmore
West Point
UVA (39)
William and Mary (35)
Williams
Yale (2)

I live in S. Arlington and have ZERO concerns about my kids' ability to be prepared for a top school, supported in getting into said school, and having a large peer group of kids who are also planning to go to competitive schools. It is just a NON ISSUE and I'm so tired of stupid DCUM trolls acting like Wakefield is the Black Hole of Calcutta.

There's not a large peer group of kids going to top schools from Wakefield. This is total rubbish.

there's 100 kids on that list. how's that total rubbish?

Well, no, there's not, because it's a list many of those acceptances of acceptances, not schools where students enrolled, so a much smaller subset of students is likely represented here. However, there are 39 kids who got into UVA. That's a much bigger peer group than I had when I was a top student at my high school, and I always felt plenty challenged/encouraged. To me, 39 seems like more than a critical mass.

Jeez, sorry about the incoherence above. Damn iPad keyboard. Hopefully, you catch my drift!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wakefield pyramids are considered one of the worst in Virginia.

OP, ignore these stupid posters. If you are an involved parent and expect your kids to go to college, they will do fine at Wakefield. It's a big school with a successful AP program. Naviance shows 2013 college acceptances as follows (note--this is a small subset of acceptances)

Bates
Bowdoin (3)
Brown
Berkeley
Cal Tech (2)
Columbia (5)
Cornell (2)
Dartmouth
Duke (4)
Georgetown (5)
Georgia Tech (3)
Harvard
Johns Hopkins (4)
MIT
Michigan (3)
Northwestern (2)
Oberlin (4)
U Penn (2)
Princeton (2)
Smith (2)
Stanford
Swarthmore
West Point
UVA (39)
William and Mary (35)
Williams
Yale (2)

I live in S. Arlington and have ZERO concerns about my kids' ability to be prepared for a top school, supported in getting into said school, and having a large peer group of kids who are also planning to go to competitive schools. It is just a NON ISSUE and I'm so tired of stupid DCUM trolls acting like Wakefield is the Black Hole of Calcutta.

There's not a large peer group of kids going to top schools from Wakefield. This is total rubbish.

there's 100 kids on that list. how's that total rubbish?

Well, no, there's not, because it's a list many of those acceptances of acceptances, not schools where students enrolled, so a much smaller subset of students is likely represented here. However, there are 39 kids who got into UVA. That's a much bigger peer group than I had when I was a top student at my high school, and I always felt plenty challenged/encouraged. To me, 39 seems like more than a critical mass.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wakefield pyramids are considered one of the worst in Virginia.

OP, ignore these stupid posters. If you are an involved parent and expect your kids to go to college, they will do fine at Wakefield. It's a big school with a successful AP program. Naviance shows 2013 college acceptances as follows (note--this is a small subset of acceptances)

Bates
Bowdoin (3)
Brown
Berkeley
Cal Tech (2)
Columbia (5)
Cornell (2)
Dartmouth
Duke (4)
Georgetown (5)
Georgia Tech (3)
Harvard
Johns Hopkins (4)
MIT
Michigan (3)
Northwestern (2)
Oberlin (4)
U Penn (2)
Princeton (2)
Smith (2)
Stanford
Swarthmore
West Point
UVA (39)
William and Mary (35)
Williams
Yale (2)

I live in S. Arlington and have ZERO concerns about my kids' ability to be prepared for a top school, supported in getting into said school, and having a large peer group of kids who are also planning to go to competitive schools. It is just a NON ISSUE and I'm so tired of stupid DCUM trolls acting like Wakefield is the Black Hole of Calcutta.

I heart you!
Signed,
Another S. Arl mom whose children will also go to Wakefield