These kids are in elementary school. Standard grades are used starting in 6th grades. The children have plenty of time to worry about grades and being challenged past proficiency before college.

Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows that 2.0 dumbed down the targets as a means to address the poor test results of lower income minority students. So now, everyone is proficient and they can call it a win. The fourth grade guinea pigs who end up struggling in MS and HS are the real victims.

I find this comment very offensive and simply wrong.

Anonymous wrote:That's the thing- not every child gets all P's. Just like not all kids got straight A's. By saying such a flippant comment, you are bragging about your child. Both of my children are advanced and strong students and neither have gotten straight P's. Talking to many other parents has led me to believe this is true for their children too. This is fine. The report card shows what areas they are not proficient in yet. I do wonder if some schools grade harder than others?

Just pass the bar, the low, low bar.
Don't worry, the college system will give your kids a dose of reality, that coupled with the fact that the non US college students will have been challenged way beyond proficiency.

Anonymous wrote:Whatever. I'm so over mcps and 2.0.

You know some of us would be thrilled if our kids could get a handful of Ps. We're not even dreaming of straight Ps because that's beyond our son's abilities. But the few we see are simply beautiful.

Really, we went from five designations to four. What's the big deal.

P for proficient, it's good enough for me, la la la laa la....
And good enough for Starr. Community College, here we come, yay!

Test scores are meaningless. 2.0 doesn't correlate to map-m. Those tests will be replaced with a new one next year. So they can't even accurately test until they implement the new test next year. Poor little guinea pigs.

But when they compare progress of different groups, it is never Hispanic students are now earning more P's and fewer I's then before, it is only test scores. These report cards are not used for that purpose.

Everyone knows that 2.0 dumbed down the targets as a means to address the poor test results of lower income minority students. So now, everyone is proficient and they can call it a win. The fourth grade guinea pigs who end up struggling in MS and HS are the real victims.

Anonymous wrote:We've already established that the MCPS report cards are pretty meaningless.

DS got Ps, with both an I AND an ES in music. How strange.

Anyway, I know where his strengths and weaknesses are and we will be working on those at home.
Business as usual.

All I think of when I see the report card is that public school is free with tax, not $30K/kid on top of tax.
That means I can afford a little bit of targeted enrichment that will serve him much better than private school.

This is my attitude also. There is only so much public school can provide. And, I'm saving a ton of money by not doing private school. It just means that I need to be more aware of what areas DD needs work in. And, we work on those at home.

Really, shouldn't you already know how your kid is doing, even before report cards come out? I always knew in school what classes I was doing well in, and what classes I was struggling in. It's the same for DD.

I can't believe how dense so many of you are.

This is not rocket science, people.

If a kid is proficient, s/he has mastered the standards for that content area during a a specific period of time. Keep in mind that many elementary lessons are differentiated, too. So some of the standards may be set higher for kids who progress at a faster rate.

So you're basically saying that when you see a P on your kid's report card, you can't figure out your own child's CURRENT level?

Furthermore, you don't recognize how an A at School X may be anchored to more rigorous instruction and standards than an A at School Y? And even from class to class, the definition of an A can change.

So if an A can change from school to school, how does it make it any easier to know your child's TRUE ability?

just amazing . . . and absolutely pathetic how black and white you are

And you're the ones who learned in more traditional settings. not much critical thinking going on in your brains

Our school told us that they RARELY give out ES (it's reserved for the absolute top of the crop and VERY HARD to get and not many children will get that grade). So, my kid comes home with a report card full of ES's (and I mean 2/3 of her grades. I'm not bragging. I'm wondering if her teacher is freer with the ES grades than she is supposed to be and at what level my child is actually performing (in other words is her assessment of what deserves an ES different from other teachers at the same school who are all supposed to go about this in a standardized way)? So far the grading for 2.0 and the explanation of how that grade is reached is less than stellar to me.

Anonymous wrote:Op again. Not a brag. How can my kid who is struggling with reading get a P? Same kid barely knows his times table, but he's a P in math.

My daughter received an I in reading comprehension. So she struggles - but at a level Z, which is off the charts for her grade.

What's his reading level? Is he above grade?

Anonymous wrote:We've already established that the MCPS report cards are pretty meaningless.

DS got Ps, with both an I AND an ES in music. How strange.

Anyway, I know where his strengths and weaknesses are and we will be working on those at home.
Business as usual.

All I think of when I see the report card is that public school is free with tax, not $30K/kid on top of tax.
That means I can afford a little bit of targeted enrichment that will serve him much better than private school.

I assume that DS is proficient at the grade level for analyzing and responding to music but not proficient at the grade level for performing music. (Or maybe the other way around.) Why is that strange?

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Anonymous wrote:Awesome! A brag in the guise of a dismissal. Well played, OP!

Not the OP, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't a brag at all.

Getting all 'P's isn't really something to brag about. I think OP was complaining about how inane the system is.

Why not? My kids haven't ever gotten all Ps.

That is pretty bad? Or pretty good? Or pretty confusing?

Wonder if the other countries in the world pussyfoot around giving grades to students!

I don't think the idea that getting all Ps is better than getting Ps and Is is confusing.

We've already established that the MCPS report cards are pretty meaningless.

DS got Ps, with both an I AND an ES in music. How strange.

Anyway, I know where his strengths and weaknesses are and we will be working on those at home.
Business as usual.

All I think of when I see the report card is that public school is free with tax, not $30K/kid on top of tax.
That means I can afford a little bit of targeted enrichment that will serve him much better than private school.